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To be fair, there is long list of car makers that strove to make "the best" only to have no buyers because the best costs money. Companies are in business to make money and survive, and a trophy for the absolute best in the business does no good if your business closes down. As a money making entity, a company needs to go after the lowest common denominator in order to profit. Other wise they go out of business or become absorbed into a much larger company.
So no, not only idiots want to server that segment. Companies that want to prosper serve that market.
I didn't express my thoughts very clearly. What I was trying to say is I care about the product, to include price, but I don't care about the *popularity* of the product. Manufacturers who dominate markets - GM, Budweiser, Micky D's - are not IMHO typically offering the best overall deal, they are cruising along on slick advertising, etc.
In many ways in terms of "car as appliance" Toyota was making what I would consider the "best" overall product until they lost their way in a IMHO stupid attempt to simply move more units than GM.
This is the market segment (IMHO) sought by idiots - just to be big for the sake of being big.
To be fair, there is long list of car makers that strove to make "the best" only to have no buyers because the best costs money. Companies are in business to make money and survive, and a trophy for the absolute best in the business does no good if your business closes down. As a money making entity, a company needs to go after the lowest common denominator in order to profit. Other wise they go out of business or become absorbed into a much larger company.
So no, not only idiots want to server that segment. Companies that want to prosper serve that market.
This is one of the most ridiculous posts I have seen in a while. I'm sure Toyota by keeping the quality of their product on par with prior years was threatening their very existence. We can all see what cutting corners has gotten that company.
I can tell you going after the lowest common denominator has put more companies out of business than continually striving to be the best you can be.
No I expect problems but I expect them on the frequency of our 1996, 1998, and 2003 Toyota's. The general cheapening of the product is what bothers me.
I agree that they've cheapened the interior materials. I was only noting that the reported repair frequency remains the lowest in the industry. The cheaper materials don't necessarily break more often. They just look and feel cheaper.
This is one of the most ridiculous posts I have seen in a while. I'm sure Toyota by keeping the quality of their product on par with prior years was threatening their very existence. We can all see what cutting corners has gotten that company. I can tell you going after the lowest common denominator has put more companies out of business than continually striving to be the best you can be.
Going after the lowest common denominator was what Toyota did best. Aiming for peopel who didng' give a crap about cars, only appliances. they weren't the "best" at anything dynamically OR materials quality. Lexus were, but those cost a lot more. the ONLY thing Toyota had going for it was a reputation of being the best at being reliable, but even then it wa s false reputation. if a Ford or GM broke, a buyer woudl do like the OP and swear they'd never buy a nother. But for years, when a Toyota broke, it was swept under the rug and the buyer would make excuses.
I'm sorry, but mass market Americans have a reputaion for being lowest common denominator. They like American Idol and Mylie Cyrus, they can't save for the future, they can't vote, they go into debt buying things they can't afford, they overeat, they make stupid choices right and left, etc. But let them buy a Toyota and they are suddenly Mensa candidates and "informed consumers." Sorry, not buying it. Most buyers barely know which end is the front, couldn't tell you the parts under the hood, and as is recently evidenced, many Toyota buyers don't even know which pedal is the brake. So much for "informed consumers."
But Toyota sold a bunch of cars, and they did so by going after the mass market. That's where the money is (a is evidenced by Lady Gaga record sales).
No Longer A Toyota Owner (Don't Know If I Will Be Again)
Everyone is free to buy the vehicle that best fits their needs, desires, and budgets.
If Toyota isn't for you, that's OK. There are plenty of other manufacturers making good cars these days.
Personally, I've owned two Toyotas over the years. And they've been the best vehicles I've ever had. Matter of fact, I still have a 25 year-old Toyota pickup. Even now with more than 200K miles, it still runs like a Swiss watch.
Everyone is free to buy the vehicle that best fits their needs, desires, and budgets.
If Toyota isn't for you, that's OK. There are plenty of other manufacturers making good cars these days.
Personally, I've owned two Toyotas over the years. And they've been the best vehicles I've ever had. Matter of fact, I still have a 25 year-old Toyota pickup. Even now with more than 200K miles, it still runs like a Swiss watch.
You might be making the same point as the critics. They're arguing that a current Toyota wouldn't hold up as well for 25 years / 200k.
Didn't Motor Trend name the 2010 Camry ------ "The Best Mid-Sized Sedan"
Motor Trend names anybody who spends the cash advertising and whatnot "the best"! lol "The best" is what professional mechanics and actual owners with nothing to gain say is the best!
Motor Trend names anybody who spends the cash advertising and whatnot "the best"! lol "The best" is what professional mechanics and actual owners with nothing to gain say is the best!
I used to like Motor Trend for the flashy pictures when I was like in the 6th grade. Their awards mean so little.....
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"The best" is what professional mechanics and actual owners with nothing to gain say is the best!
