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Old 10-03-2009, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Say what you will about Toyota, but one of the stunning differences between the Japanese automaker and its Detroit counterparts is the degree in which the company is willing to admit mistakes right off the bat.

When Toyota's president, Akio Toyoda, met with the press today in Tokyo, there was no sugar coating.

Drive On: Cars, Trucks, and Daily Life - USATODAY.com
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Old 10-03-2009, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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EXACTLY!!!

I would NEVER consider a Ford due the inexcusable to the way they have handled past recalls!!!

Recalls are to be expected from time to time...its MUCH better to see a that company TAKES RESPONSIBILTY!!!
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Old 10-04-2009, 02:10 AM
 
Location: Eastern Missouri
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Say what you will about Toyota, but one of the stunning differences between the Japanese automaker and its Detroit counterparts is the degree in which the company is willing to admit mistakes right off the bat.

When Toyota's president, Akio Toyoda, met with the press today in Tokyo, there was no sugar coating.

Drive On: Cars, Trucks, and Daily Life - USATODAY.com

HOGWASH !!! Toyota has denied they had many recalls in the past. But the deal was, get the customerto bring the vehicle in, find a reason to keep it until repaired and never tell the customer it was a recall job. The 1 and onkly reason you heard about it is because toyota stock is down like all car industry stock. And the news media which in the past would give a highlight about a "well known" automaker has a recall and then you never heard it during the broadcast. That was the medias way of protecting thier 401K's and stock portfolio. This time it is clear to everyone so they couldn't deny this recall.
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:13 AM
 
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Persoanlly;I would bet that many ford oweners wish that Ford would have not took years and years to recell thei vehlces for what got to be the flaming fords problem. I think that recalls are good and applaud toyota for doing this one quickly. But lookig back thre were many accidents involving moving floor mats but probaly more of the same type accidents caused by things under the seat coming out.There are publications on numbers of recall and last I saw chrysler was the most forced recall company.IMO ther late 80-early 90 paint leeling was perhaps the worse non recall problme with all three of the big 3 vehicle preoblems.After years the big 4 would p[aint the vehicles if the owenr cam ei a fileda complaint but never notifed or advertise that they would or did a voluntary recall.You still see these vehicles driving around with teh fiinsh peeled to the primer.
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:03 AM
 
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A little damage control... however still lies by sticking with the floor mat excuse.
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Old 10-05-2009, 05:09 AM
 
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A little damage control... however still lies by sticking with the floor mat excuse.
+1. This crash has not yet been investigated thoroughly. Any recall now is pure damage control.
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Old 10-05-2009, 06:29 AM
 
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Say what you will about Toyota, but one of the stunning differences between the Japanese automaker and its Detroit counterparts is the degree in which the company is willing to admit mistakes right off the bat.
*cough* BS *cough*

This is the same company that was investigated by the Japanese government for withholding evidence on a Hilux rollover. This is also the same company that waits three years until a family dies to acknowledge unintended acceleration that has been plaguing many vehicles in its lineup.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:15 AM
 
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HOGWASH !!! Toyota has denied they had many recalls in the past. But the deal was, get the customerto bring the vehicle in, find a reason to keep it until repaired and never tell the customer it was a recall job. The 1 and onkly reason you heard about it is because toyota stock is down like all car industry stock. And the news media which in the past would give a highlight about a "well known" automaker has a recall and then you never heard it during the broadcast. That was the medias way of protecting thier 401K's and stock portfolio. This time it is clear to everyone so they couldn't deny this recall.


Absolutely - Toyota has had many mass recall issues that it refused to acknowledge or issue official TSBs for. Imo the recall is more of a PR stunt to give the public a perception of "Toyota cares". Floor mats are cheap, replacing engines that create sludge are not. Toyota itself has admitted it let quality slide in its bid to become bigger than GM over the past 15 years, and now its trying to refocus on quality and better products than what its been rolling out.

Both Toyota and Honda are relying on their reliability reputations too heavily any more - look at the current ad campaigns - they tout resale and reliability over any true character of the vehicle - amazing. They are making lackluster product and have poor quality control, just like American automakers did in the 80s and 90s. It amazes me that they would do such a thing, but I was also amazed that American car companies would do this. The Japanese are the new American automakers, the Koreans are the new Japanese, and Ford at least is making a strong come back to quality and value.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:32 AM
 
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Absolutely - Toyota has had many mass recall issues that it refused to acknowledge or issue official TSBs for. Imo the recall is more of a PR stunt to give the public a perception of "Toyota cares".
That's what Toyota did for the Scion tC sunroof defect and the Tacoma rusting frames...rather than issue a public recall, they sent letters to owners telling them to bring it to the dealership for a "service campaign." It's how they weasel around issuing a public recall. And if it weren't for independent auto sites like Autoblog and Jalopnik, nobody would have ever heard about this because the mass media sure wasn't going to cover it.
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Old 10-05-2009, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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As opposed to Fords rollover explorers which they blamed on the tires years after it started happening or the flaming F-150's which they also blamed on someone else years later and all they told their owners was to not park in a garage until they could fix it, or how about the exploding Pintos which they never saw fault in themselves for a deadly design.

Yep Toyota is the only automaker who tries to hide safety defects.
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