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My '69 Cadillac Fleetwood (with carburetor and points) can sit in the garage for 2 weeks and start up with 15 seconds or less of engine cranking. The engine in my '76 Cadillac Limo is extremely smooth and quiet.
None of my 3 '60s and '70s cars, all of which have carburetors, don't sputter. I don't know where you get that idea that all old cars sputter. In fact, if full-throttle is used from a standing start with my '69 Cadillac, there is instant wheelspin. This is because the carburetor is correctly adjusted.
I never said all old cars sputter. But almost all of today's engines start virtually instantly. They idle ridiculously smoothly. Not all of them run well at higher rpms, but neither did most older engines.
And most of these engines don't need any service but oil changes for 60,000-100,000 miles. Tuning your cars may be no big deal to you - but for most car buyers today they like near zero unscheduled maintenance.
Horrid steering, horrid suspension, horrid brakes, spongy gas pedal, uncomfortable seats, cheap plastic interior, inferior fuel economy, bland, bloated styling, doors weigh an ounce and sound like a tin can when shutting, switches feel like they'll fall off any minute, poorly laid out instrument cluster, horrid stock audio.
My general impression from the 2010 Corolla my brother bought.
Go drive the 2011 Focus when you get the chance. European suspension, legendary fuel economy, plenty of balls for a compact, comfy seats, and when a Ford is loaded to 20 grand, you get a LOT!
I agree about the Corolla.
But when I jump from my 03 SVT Focus into the 2010 Focus, I think the same thing about it as you do the Corolla.
I never said all old cars sputter. But almost all of today's engines start virtually instantly.
The engines in my '60s and '70s car start within a reasonable amount of time.
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They idle ridiculously smoothly
As does the engine in my '76 Limo.
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Not all of them run well at higher rpms, but neither did most older engines.
Older engines ran fine at high rpms... up to the recommended redline. I used to take my '66 Dart GT V-8 up to 45 mph in 1st gear... never a complaint from the engine.
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And most of these engines don't need any service but oil changes for 60,000-100,000 miles. Tuning your cars may be no big deal to you - but for most car buyers today they like near zero unscheduled maintenance.
My '66 Plymouth was converted to electronic ignition. My '76 Limo has factory electronic ignition. The spark plugs last a long time. And tune-ups are not required every year, as some people assume. My '69 Cadillac still has the original ignition system (points) but it's driven only about 1,000 miles per year. In the almost 6 years I've owned, the points have only been changed once. It also has not required any work on the brakes since I've owned it.
I never said all old cars sputter. But almost all of today's engines start virtually instantly. They idle ridiculously smoothly. Not all of them run well at higher rpms, but neither did most older engines.
And most of these engines don't need any service but oil changes for 60,000-100,000 miles. Tuning your cars may be no big deal to you - but for most car buyers today they like near zero unscheduled maintenance.
I could post 5 pages of real engine spec info to get your answer. But I'll simply say you just do not understand engines. I have so many first hand experiences with new and old cars, and they ALL have exactly the same issues, it's just which part type system they use.
The amin thign i see when i drive aroud is that so many of the cars are hard to tell from a camry or acoord . i mean they almost copy them in evry way. Ford does look different in front but kind of ugly with their new ram truck type chrome grills.Face it evry maker is doing what toyota and honda have done wel, for years ;make cars that people want because they are reliable and the dealers shop areas make US brands look 1950s' on their standards.Even nissan does not ahve the standards in shops reas that they do.We have a dealer that sales toyota;ford and nissan and he says toyota has requirement far past the others if you weant to be a dealer.He sales mostly trucks at the Ford dealership and cars at toyota and nissian just different level on pricing and overall quailty.now the family for years.He is now building a hyanda dealership to spread the price factor.
The amin thign i see when i drive aroud is that so many of the cars are hard to tell from a camry or acoord . i mean they almost copy them in evry way. Ford does look different in front but kind of ugly with their new ram truck type chrome grills.Face it evry maker is doing what toyota and honda have done wel, for years ;make cars that people want because they are reliable and the dealers shop areas make US brands look 1950s' on their standards.Even nissan does not ahve the standards in shops reas that they do.We have a dealer that sales toyota;ford and nissan and he says toyota has requirement far past the others if you weant to be a dealer.He sales mostly trucks at the Ford dealership and cars at toyota and nissian just different level on pricing and overall quailty.now the family for years.He is now building a hyanda dealership to spread the price factor.
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The reason why you still see Toyotas around even after the recall is they may be using older models or they just don't care. My dad has a 2005 Toyota Corolla (or earlier? not sure) and its not on the recall list.
It is a good car.
The car he owned before the Toyota was a 90s Saturn. Now that is a bad car. The 1999 Ford van with the wheelchair lift is also pretty bad.
He had the Toyota for 5 years and I think last winter was the first time the battery died. We just got a new battery instead of bothering with that battery after jumping it because that winter was cold.
Or they (ie: me) chose a new Toyota this year after comparing it with other vehicles that met my requirements. For the price, the amenities, the 2010 Toyota RAV4 V6 was the best choice. I don't have the problematic floor mats, I don't have the recalled pedal, and I don't believe the unintended acceleration problem, if it really exists beyond those two problems, is widespread enough to be a concern beyond any other modern drive-by-wire car.
Horrid steering, horrid suspension, horrid brakes, spongy gas pedal, uncomfortable seats, cheap plastic interior, inferior fuel economy, bland, bloated styling, doors weigh an ounce and sound like a tin can when shutting, switches feel like they'll fall off any minute, poorly laid out instrument cluster, horrid stock audio.
My general impression from the 2010 Corolla my brother bought.
Go drive the 2011 Focus when you get the chance. European suspension, legendary fuel economy, plenty of balls for a compact, comfy seats, and when a Ford is loaded to 20 grand, you get a LOT!
Thats funny, the Corolla I drove for 2 weeks was nothing like that. Suspension was good, seats were comfortable, granted we don't weight 300lbs, but they were comfortable for us. We got 39mpg consitantly, how is that inferior fuel economy? Lets see your focus get that. Sound system was fine, not the best, but good enough ans as for the tin can doors, I didn't get that at all. Your hatred of Toyota clouds your mind just like alot of others on here.
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