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Old 05-19-2016, 09:02 AM
 
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Why do many, if not most, flights from the west coast to Asia fly at night.
Why do many of those cabin crews insist on the passenger windows to be down.
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Old 05-19-2016, 10:59 AM
 
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Why do many, if not most, flights from the west coast to Asia fly at night.
Why do many of those cabin crews insist on the passenger windows to be down.
So that to minimize your lost day by crossing the dateline, you arrive early in the morning.


Windows are down so people can sleep/watch IFE
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Old 05-19-2016, 03:45 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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All the flights I take leave west coast about noon, and arrive Asia 9 pm till midnight. (Connections to Singapore, and Malaysia)

Australia arrives at 6 AM. Works perfect, as I can go directly to work and not lose a beat.
Same returning from Asia... Leave Singapore at 7 AM, arrive USA west coast, just in time to go to work (same day). Boss likes it too! Work on your return to USA until till 10pm, and no jet lag. No lost days, No naps!

Yeah, I really dislike the 'window down' policy. I like to view the Aleutians and hunt for ships.
In hundreds of transcontinental flights, I have never watched an 'in-flight' video. My last TV program was in 1968, that was a real waste of time. I did get talked into seeing the release of Raiders of the Lost Ark, circa 1980... That was ok, but still pretty significant waste of time. I am not into 'passive' entertainment.
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Old 05-19-2016, 07:06 PM
 
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Windows down also means that passengers are more likely to be dozing off, and creates less work for the flight attendants.
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Old 05-19-2016, 07:35 PM
 
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I always prefer Window seats while in an Airplane. I always like to identify the cities and landscapes over which we are flying. I think that this suggestion of downing of Windows is unique to American Carriers. Wheneevr I travel by European or Asian Airlines, I do not recall any Flight Crew requesting passengers to down their windows.
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Old 05-19-2016, 08:52 PM
 
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If people want to sleep what difference does it make whether windows are up or down?
Also would this be mandatory or just a request from the attendant?
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Old 05-20-2016, 06:50 PM
 
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Not mandatory but this has happened 2 times atleast with me in United, American and it was more like Order by Flight Attendant then Request but not mandatory. I never understood the exact reason. I avoid International travel by American Carriers now and this problem do ot happen in any European or Asian airlines.
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Old 05-21-2016, 03:45 AM
 
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Not mandatory but this has happened 2 times atleast with me in United, American and it was more like Order by Flight Attendant then Request but not mandatory. I never understood the exact reason. I avoid International travel by American Carriers now and this problem do ot happen in any European or Asian airlines.
Yes, it does. We flew just last november on Emerites who was surprisingly strict about the rule. I suspect it was so people could fully enjoy their much lauded (deservedly) in flight entertainment system.
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Old 05-21-2016, 11:15 AM
 
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Every time we fly to Asia leaving from the east coast with connections on the west coast we use EVA and others. They always leave The United States late night and fly at night. They always require us to have the window down.
Forget the people watching movies or sleeping. Passengers paid for that window seat.

If all the windows are down, how easy would it be for a military plane to not realize it was a commercial plane? Windows open help to prevent such a shoot down. Also, if the plane is headed to the ground in a crash or there is a mechanical failure on the wing, the windows open allow passengers to see what is happening or going to happen.
But we never fly U.S. carriers to Asia due to the high cost.

Think about all the recent disasters. Air France, TWA, Egypt Air (2), Swiss Air and others. What do they have in common? All flying at night where nobody can see a darn thing.

Day time is far safer because people on the ground or in the sea in boats can "see" what is happening or about to happen.
Day time seems greatly more safe.
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Old 05-21-2016, 11:30 AM
 
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If all the windows are down, how easy would it be for a military plane to not realize it was a commercial plane? Windows open help to prevent such a shoot down. Also, if the plane is headed to the ground in a crash or there is a mechanical failure on the wing, the windows open allow passengers to see what is happening or going to happen.
But we never fly U.S. carriers to Asia due to the high cost.

Think about all the recent disasters. Air France, TWA, Egypt Air (2), Swiss Air and others. What do they have in common? All flying at night where nobody can see a darn thing.

Day time is far safer because people on the ground or in the sea in boats can "see" what is happening or about to happen.
Day time seems greatly more safe.
Seriously? You think the airline employees on the plane WANT you to keep the shades down so the plane is a better target for terrorism?????

I've no doubt that if I put the time and energy into it, I could find WAY more crashes during daylight. Can we start with the three planes that went down on 9-11?
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