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"I don't understand. But I don't care, so it works out."
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Originally Posted by Rowan123
Well 99.9% percent of the time, I would be against a murderer being paroled. However in this case I think it's probably warranted. The only reason IMO she's still in prison is because she killed someone famous and was a Manson family member. If she had not been involved in a notorious crime, I'm willing to bet she should have been paroled years ago.
I think that too. She was a teenager at the time this crime was committed - had it not been for the infamy of a the Manson Murders, killing very wealthy influential people, she would have served 20+ years and gotten out of prison for her role in this.
I think that too. She was a teenager at the time this crime was committed - had it not been for the infamy of a the Manson Murders, killing very wealthy influential people, she would have served 20+ years and gotten out of prison for her role in this.
Meaningless point. One could say the same thing about Sirhan Sirhan.
And chuck the "teenager" gar-baghe--she turned 20 less than 2 weeks after the murders.
Meaningless point. One could say the same thing about Sirhan Sirhan.
And chuck the "teenager" gar-baghe--she turned 20 less than 2 weeks after the murders.
You pay for your thrills.
Agree, Delahanty. Her crime was particularly heinous. She didn't just shoot someone or stab someone from anger etc.
It was deliberately planned, very traumatic and bizarre. Imagine the torture the married couple went through...while waiting to die. Inscriptions written on his abdomen by knifepoint? Leaving a knife sticking out of his abdomen as you ate snacks in their kitchen????
NOT just a "normal" crime.
No amount of remorse does it for me....think of their children, what must they be thinking about now?
Van Houten Larry King1994 interview from prison. Debate follows on parole.
Guests:
Van Houtens father
Her attorney
Case prosecutor
Debra Tate
Found Van Houtens smiling throughout the interview... odd. Admitts to stabbing Mrs LaBianca 16 times.....BUT....she was already dead. Excusing her participation to some degree giving her solace.
I would like to know why prisoners, especially lifers are not only allowed to marry but have conjugal visits producing children. It would be a slap in the face to anyone whose child was murdered.
It’s important to remember that Van Houten’s original 1971 conviction was reversed in 1976. Thereafter she was retried in 1977 on 1st degree murder charges; this trial ended with a hung jury as the jury couldn’t convict based on van houten’s state of mind (the basis of a 1st degree murder conviction).
Van Houten was released from prison pending a 3rd trial in 1978 and lived on the outside for almost a year. The 3rd trial saw prosecutor Steven Kay opt for a Felony Murder charge given the results of van houten’s 2nd trial. Too risky to try for a Murder 1 conviction again that could have resulted in a not guilty verdict and Van Houten’s release.
Felony Murder being that Van Houten’s presence during the commission of a burglary (the felony) made her liable for the subsequent deaths of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca. A felony murder conviction premised on a burglary in CA carries with it 1st degree murder liability for any deaths during the commission of the felony.
Patty Hearst was convicted on Felony Murder; her presence and participation in the bank robbery that resulted in the death of a bank customer made Hearst guilty of 1st degree murder by her presence and participation in the underlying bank robbery.
Even her crime partner Tex Watson said Van Houten was scared to death in the LaBianca home but Manson ordered that everyone get their hands dirty. Van Houten, age 19, stabbed Rosemary LaBianca post-mortem after pretty much being forced down to the floor to do it by Watson.
I saw MANSON, a Dateline show last night....reminded me the horror the LaBiancas went through.
LVH was a willing participant or she would not have been there.
Ordered a new book on the girls of Manson....well the women of Manson. I'll try to post after reading, if there are new points.
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