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Old 12-04-2011, 09:45 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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What a moron this woman is. I will not allow my kids to go anywhere near the black friday doorbuster sales. Too risky. And whoever the geniuses are that moved up the doorbusters to 9:00pm on Thursday: [b]yeah let's get people into the stores that are still buzzed from drinking at their Thanksgiving celebrations.
Wow, This is a good point you raise! For sure they would still be under some of the effects from the previous night. And while it is no excuse for the behavior, It is a contributor.

having worked in a mall, I stay far away from retail stores on this day.
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Old 12-05-2011, 06:16 AM
 
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Yeah, that woman - the $$$ she saved on her purchase, now is going towards her legal defense bills. real smart.
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Old 12-06-2011, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Earth Wanderer, longing for the stars.
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If you have no self respect, it is hard to know how to respect others.
Parents certainly cannot be doing their jobs when their adult child behaves in such a manner.
Don't the schools teach children about proper conduct in a civilized society?
How repulsive.
When members of the public behave in such a manner I really pity people who must work with them, police, retailers, hospitals.
This is one reason why people really try to do well in life, so they can rear their children in an environment away from dregs like this.
I pray to God that she has no offspring.
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:00 PM
 
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Sometimes, I think the punishment should fit the crime. I don't want this woman to have "community service". Even jail is too easy for her. I almost view this as a terrorist act, she committed a serious crime, that affected many innocent people, and children. Just so she could get a big screen tv first? That is completely amoral, and sociopathic. I really think she should serve her sentence, and be sprayed in the face with pepper spray on a weekly basis. Too bad no one else is amoral enough to want to punish someone like that.

But, I must admit, retailers need to take some social responsibility for these crazy acts of violence, having reduced discounts on high ticket items, for those who get there first, is part of the problem.
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:24 PM
 
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I hope that nonsense decision to spray pepper spray over some replaceable goods was worth it for her...
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Old 12-06-2011, 03:11 PM
 
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Default Self-defense ?

Detectives have reviewed videos that indicate the 32-year-old woman may have feared for her life. "There was a stampede at Walmart from people getting Xbox games for half off," he said. "There was no control. People were getting stampeded and trampled. There were people screaming, yelling that they were being trampled or crushed. This woman may have fired her pepper spray in self-defense."

Walmart pepper-spraying may have been self-defense, police say - San Jose Mercury News
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Old 12-06-2011, 04:32 PM
 
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Right. I am going to go to Wal-Mart on Black Friday...but I am afraid of crowds...maybe she should have just stayed home....Valid point though...but does not pass the "reasonable doubt" test to me...but of course, I would have voted Casey Anthony to the row...so, what do I know....
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:29 PM
 
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Detectives have reviewed videos that indicate the 32-year-old woman may have feared for her life. "There was a stampede at Walmart from people getting Xbox games for half off," he said. "There was no control. People were getting stampeded and trampled. There were people screaming, yelling that they were being trampled or crushed. This woman may have fired her pepper spray in self-defense."

Walmart pepper-spraying may have been self-defense, police say - San Jose Mercury News
Oh please, then you stay home. It's not like this hasn't happened before. A guard at Walmart was stampeded to death a couple of years ago in NY on Black Friday.

This "frenzy" has been going on for the last few years.

This is just another example of someone not being responisible for their actions.

Funny, the day after Thanskgiving has always been a busy shopping day long before the term "Black Friday" was coined.

Yet people behaved themselves, of course stores didn't open at midnight, they had normal hours and people took advantage of the sales.
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:12 AM
 
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I worked black fridays when I was in retail. It was a nightmare. Lucky for me, most employees wanted to work them. They liked watching the rush after the doors open. It was a thrill for them. It scared the crap out of me. I found it to be a joke really. Retailers look at inventory and look for the stragglers. Old merchandise that they want to get out of their systems. Old SKU's, discontinued items, old models etc. The store I worked at we wouldn't even have the items in stock. Management told us to tell people the items were sold out. Okay, easy to do after the store opened but not so easy when you are dealing with the first person that made it in the store. The best deals are the promos. The items intended for black friday like the jeans and other stuff that gets shipped in for the sale. There is always enough to last for most of the day. Walmart actually called it "Blitz" instead of Black friday. Both names don't sound very positive to me.
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Old 12-07-2011, 06:45 AM
 
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Oh please, then you stay home. It's not like this hasn't happened before. A guard at Walmart was stampeded to death a couple of years ago in NY on Black Friday.

This "frenzy" has been going on for the last few years.

This is just another example of someone not being responisible for their actions.[snip]
If she's not charged with a crime, it'll be the police or DA who don't hold her responsible.

The image I had was of the woman spraying other customers so that only she could get to the merchandise. The video apparently shows a different story. If she was being trampled or people were grabbing what she had, her reaction might not be criminal.
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