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I understand people's frustration with Mad Men keeping Vietnam, civil rights, women's lib, etc. in the background. Mad Men is a great show but it could have been a real classic if it had delved a little deeper into these social upheavals that affected and changed so many people at the time.
I guess having the IBM 360 in there gives the audience a kind of perspective on how computers have changed over the last 50 years, the 360 occupied a whole room in an office yet it only had the fraction of speed and memory that today's little tablets have. But that's the only reason, because what use does an ad agency have with a computer?
And I would imagine that they would have to install a good air conditioning system. I'm waiting for the jokes when the characters walk into that room and they are freezing their tails off.
I understand people's frustration with Mad Men keeping Vietnam, civil rights, women's lib, etc. in the background. Mad Men is a great show but it could have been a real classic if it had delved a little deeper into these social upheavals that affected and changed so many people at the time.
I don't understand it. We've been beat over the head with images of the late 60's for the last 40 years.
What angle could they bring to Vietnam or Woodstock that we haven't seen before?
We're actually seeing an angle of the 60's we've never seen. That not everyone wore flowers in their hair..That even during the radical 60's, the Don Draper's of the world weren't all that affected by the "social upheavals". That's what I like about the show. I'm burned out on the (obvious examples) of 60's nostalgia.
They haven't gotten into busing yet either. I'm waiting for Betty to have a fit when the kids from "across the tracks" get bussed into Bobby's school.
I don't think busing was legally instituted until the 70s.
But yea I would've loved to have seen Betty's reaction to that too. When Mad Men ends somebody needs to pick up where it leaves off and do a 70s version.
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IWe're actually seeing an angle of the 60's we've never seen. That not everyone wore flowers in their hair..That even during the radical 60's, the Don Draper's of the world weren't all that affected by the "social upheavals". That's what I like about the show. I'm burned out on the (obvious examples) of 60's nostalgia.
That's a good point. I think Weiner had said something similar, that he wanted to show the other side of life in the 60s - the people who just got up and went to work while all this flower-power stuff was going on outside their window.
I don't understand it. We've been beat over the head with images of the late 60's for the last 40 years.
What angle could they bring to Vietnam or Woodstock that we haven't seen before?
We're actually seeing an angle of the 60's we've never seen. That not everyone wore flowers in their hair..That even during the radical 60's, the Don Draper's of the world weren't all that affected by the "social upheavals". That's what I like about the show. I'm burned out on the (obvious examples) of 60's nostalgia.
For everyone else there's 'The Wonder Years'.
I agree with you. I think they are keeping just the right balance. Most people in real life are primarily concerned with what is going on in their own backyard. If you were living in NYC at the time, Kent State was something that happened on TV, but Columbia sit-ins were something that may have affected and inconvenienced your quality of life. I realize that Mad Men is geared for a national audience, but there was so much stuff going on in NYC at that time - Black Panthers, the Ocean Hill-Brownsville Teacher strike of 1968 which shut down the largest school district in the US for 4 months because of racial conflicts, the other threats by various unions to strike throughout the 60s, Robert Moses who changed the landscape of NYC forever, the increase of crime in NYC during the late 60s, increased building of public housing projects which also changed NYC. Mad Men covered the Blackout of '66, but never mentioned the 12 day transit strike during the same year which brought Madison Ave. and every other business to a standstill. The 17 day sanitation strike in '68 was omitted as well. These were big, big stories during that time, when John Lindsay was mayor of Fun City.
We're actually seeing an angle of the 60's we've never seen. That not everyone wore flowers in their hair..That even during the radical 60's, the Don Draper's of the world weren't all that affected by the "social upheavals". That's what I like about the show. I'm burned out on the (obvious examples) of 60's nostalgia.
Renault, yeah there were busing issues by that time in NYC, even if on a smaller scale than Boston. The genie came out of the bottle with the Ocean Hll Brownsville strike regarding racial tensions. I remember when they started to bus some kids from Edgemere and Hammels to a school in Neponsit. The white parents held all kinds of protests and lost. The NYC schools were very overcrowded at that time. Junior and Senior high schools were running triple sessions. To alleviate some of this overcrowding, kids were being bussed out of some of their neighborhood schools, which meant that kids from that "undesirable" area were being sent into predominantly white schools. There was also a teacher shortage. Anyone who had any kind of college degree could apply for a NYC emergency teacher license. NYC had it's own separate teacher licenses from the state.
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