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I’ve been wanting to start this thread for a while. There are so many hoaxes and easily debunked claims about allegedly unexplained phenomena. But there is a lot of good evidence out there as well. I would like this thread to be about the “best of the best” evidence, of any unexplained phenomenon. Take your pick, just tell us why it’s the best. And please, show us the evidence via videos, photos, etc.
As an overall (but not categorical) skeptic myself, I would appreciate skeptics’ feedback too. Hypothetically speaking, what theory of an unexplained mystery would you put your bet on as the most likely to be true? I understand this requires some suspension of disbelief, but let’s play pretend. What is/was the hardest to debunk?
I’ll start. The Patterson-Gimlin footage. Shot in 1967, it appears to depict a female bipedal primate walking through the woods of Northern California. It’s probably one of the most heavily scrutinized pieces of evidence in recent history, and I’ve yet to see a debunk that passes the laugh test. To me, this footage remains unexplained, and it remains the most compelling evidence for the Sasquatch theories.
I’ve been wanting to start this thread for a while. There are so many hoaxes and easily debunked claims about allegedly unexplained phenomena. But there is a lot of good evidence out there as well. I would like this thread to be about the “best of the best” evidence, of any unexplained phenomenon. Take your pick, just tell us why it’s the best. And please, show us the evidence via videos, photos, etc.
As an overall (but not categorical) skeptic myself, I would appreciate skeptics’ feedback too. Hypothetically speaking, what theory of an unexplained mystery would you put your bet on as the most likely to be true? I understand this requires some suspension of disbelief, but let’s play pretend. What is/was the hardest to debunk?
I’ll start. The Patterson-Gimlin footage. Shot in 1967, it appears to depict a female bipedal primate walking through the woods of Northern California. It’s probably one of the most heavily scrutinized pieces of evidence in recent history, and I’ve yet to see a debunk that passes the laugh test. To me, this footage remains unexplained, and it remains the most compelling evidence for the Sasquatch theories.
Furthermore, all of those that claim it's real overlook how the use of cameras and better technology has grown exponentially since this Holly Grail of a film - there is no place left for BF to hide!
What I find curious and interesting (ive mentioned this in other threads too), considering it is 2019 and computer technology is always progressing...so where are all the super convincing pics and videos, those that are even capable of deceiving the experts?
By rights, there should be ALOT out there in circulation.
Moderating speaking... WAIT!! This is not going to be another Bigfoot fight. Stop stop stop.
The main question at hand is — what evidence ABOUT ANYTHING PARANORMAL, do you consider to be incontrovertible proof.
The OP asked the question: "I’ve yet to see a debunk that passes the laugh test" and Wikipedia has many plausible explanations or possible answers to why the film could be a fake.
Then we have the believer that tosses in a collage video that contains many small excerpts that on their own could be fake; but we would have to look at each one carefully.
I am well aware that this is a slippery slope. I am also aware that you have enjoyed some peace and quite after one recent crackdown. So set the rules; give us guidance.
I am very interested in anything paranormal; I just don't want it biased on hearsay or false conclusions. We also need to have some way to weed out those that make money from false allegations - just like we try to keep relators off the forum.
The OP asked the question: "I’ve yet to see a debunk that passes the laugh test" and Wikipedia has many plausible explanations or possible answers to why the film could be a fake.
Then we have the believer that tosses in a collage video that contains many small excerpts that on their own could be fake; but we would have to look at each one carefully.
I am well aware that this is a slippery slope. I am also aware that you have enjoyed some peace and quite after one recent crackdown. So set the rules; give us guidance.
I am very interested in anything paranormal; I just don't want it biased on hearsay or false conclusions. We also need to have some way to weed out those that make money from false allegations - just like we try to keep relators off the forum.
Thanks, I did need that bit of peace after hubby’s seizure and my having to go back to work. When you read this say work like Maynard G. Krebs.
The OP asked the question: "I’ve yet to see a debunk that passes the laugh test" and Wikipedia has many plausible explanations or possible answers to why the film could be a fake.
Then we have the believer that tosses in a collage video that contains many small excerpts that on their own could be fake; but we would have to look at each one carefully.
I am well aware that this is a slippery slope. I am also aware that you have enjoyed some peace and quite after one recent crackdown. So set the rules; give us guidance.
I am very interested in anything paranormal; I just don't want it biased on hearsay or false conclusions. We also need to have some way to weed out those that make money from false allegations - just like we try to keep relators off the forum.
I always think of bigfoot and UFOs as falling under the "Unexplained Mysteries" part of this forum's title, not the Paranormal. I save that part for ghosts, etc. Right or wrong, that's how I see it.
The main question at hand is — what evidence ABOUT ANYTHING PARANORMAL, do you consider to be incontrovertible proof.
The only bullet-proof evidence for me are my own personal experiences... problem is, they don't mean jack squat to anyone else.
There is truth to the old phrase "you have to see it to believe it".
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