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Old 08-17-2011, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Searching for youtube video's is not research, it watching videos and posting links. Have you read any true scientific papers, or just video snippets and blogs.
I think he answered your question, Asheville, in a verbose and roundabout sort of way.

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And there's your mistake. You "believe" that something can't be true unless mainstream science gives its blessing. Do you realize that it was scientific truth at one point that the Earth was flat; that Earth was the center of the universe; that the universe revolved around the Earth? You do realize that at one point, scientists thought that no machine heavier than air could fly on air (so much for that little invention called the airplane huh?).

I won't even get into my personal experiences which has taught me that science ain't got a clue when it comes to certain "paranormal" truths. With that said, here's another video since you requested it.


Disclosure Conference, National Press Club 27 Sept 2010 - YouTube
Beings that are 100,000 plus years more advanced than us could certainly build planet sized space crafts IMO.
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Old 08-17-2011, 07:17 AM
 
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It is my personal opinion that those who believe in UFOs, the Apollo conspiracy "theory", creationism, ID, an expanding Earth, a hollow Earth, and/or a flat Earth have turned off some major cognitve switch in their heads. Time to re-boot.
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Old 08-17-2011, 08:45 AM
 
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I think he answered your question, Asheville, in a verbose and roundabout sort of way.
Mainstream science: There is no evidence of ETs visiting Earth.

Religions: We haven't found ET, but it is OK to believe in such beings (keep in mind that these folks worship non-Earth beings in the sky).

The Military: We have visual and radar confirmation of intelligently controlled crafts that can out perform us and disable our nukes; yet our official airforce policy is that UFOs are no threat to National security.

Then there is the political side of this which is just as split as the others, yet some politicians are speaking out...


Disclosure - Governor Fife Symington - CNN Phoenix - YouTube

And for those of you that have "issues" with youtube clearly haven't been watching any of these videos. The majority of the videos I post are news reports that were uploaded onto youtube. You can find printed versions from sources like the NY Times and Washington Post on many of these videos. Without youtube or google video, how else can one share these news stories? I am open to suggestions...
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Old 08-17-2011, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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Mainstream science: There is no evidence of ETs visiting Earth.

Religions: We haven't found ET, but it is OK to believe in such beings (keep in mind that these folks worship non-Earth beings in the sky).

The Military: We have visual and radar confirmation of intelligently controlled crafts that can out perform us and disable our nukes; yet our official airforce policy is that UFOs are no threat to National security.

Then there is the political side of this which is just as split as the others, yet some politicians are speaking out...


Disclosure - Governor Fife Symington - CNN Phoenix - YouTube

And for those of you that have "issues" with youtube clearly haven't been watching any of these videos. The majority of the videos I post are news reports that were uploaded onto youtube. You can find printed versions from sources like the NY Times and Washington Post on many of these videos. Without youtube or google video, how else can one share these news stories? I am open to suggestions...
You make excellent points. and yes people need to understand that these are indeed youtube videos but you are posting news reports and not home made youtube clips.

There are many things in nature that at one time was not accepted by mainstream science. Its a lesson we must learn. Just because something has not been proven, doesn't mean its not real no matter how unbelievable it may seem. I blame Hollywood for all the skepticism because all those science fiction flying saucer movies have conditioned our minds into not accepting the possibility of extraterrestrial visitation. Most people agree there is other life and even intelligent life somewhere in the universe. They just have a problem with believing they have come to earth. We can't assume that we are the most intelligent creatures in the Universe and we must entertain the notion that some life out there might be thousands of years more advanced than us in technology. They may have technology so advanced, they have bypassed "our known" laws of physics. The universe is a big place. So big in fact our minds can't even comprehend it. We have no clue whats out there. We're like a fish in the deep sea ocean. Those fish have no idea there is a surface world above them teaming with different forms of life. Life can exist under different conditions. Fish can breath in oxygen through water. We can't. Some life forms in the universe may breath in carbon dioxide. Earth is not THE template for life in the universe. We need to get out of the mindset that we are at the center of the universe.
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Old 08-17-2011, 11:59 AM
 
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There are many things in nature that at one time was not accepted by mainstream science. Its a lesson we must learn. Just because something has not been proven, doesn't mean its not real no matter how unbelievable it may seem.
The problem is that there are some things that have been proven when it comes to the topic of ETs/UFOs. That proof however is simply not known by most...


Crop Circle Makers Evidence - YouTube


Crop Circles Real Scientific Evidence - YouTube
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Old 08-17-2011, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Yes, OK, NASA is hiding what it knows, and the end result is that the whole planet is going to suffer. You've made your point (more than once) and now everyone is on the same page. Next case.
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Old 08-18-2011, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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For those interested, there will be a 2 hour special UFO documentary on the History Channel airing Thursday August 25 at 8pm ET.

http://ufosontherecord.com/wp-conten...annel-UFOs.pdf

"History is filled with accounts of new phenomena that are
misunderstood and ridiculed. Galileo was charged with heresy for his observations about
the universe. Einstein’s general theory of relativity was dismissed by many as a
conspiracy.

The film features in-depth accounts by people who are willing to risk their jobs and
reputations to speak out about their extraordinary experiences, such as former Arizona
Governor Fife Symington III; Nick Pope, former head of the British Defense Ministry’s
UFO Investigative Unit, and others.

Now, a former Air Force general, a retired Air Force colonel, a former FAA executive,
and other credible witnesses are stepping forward to reveal something that nobody would
believe: first-hand encounters with UFOs.

These remarkable eyewitness stories are illustrated with actual source materials
such as footage, radar images and voice recordings from NASA, the Air Force and the
FAA."


This is the kind of evidence we are talking about. Not random photos and youtube videos of "UFOs" in the sky which can be faked by anyone. When you have radar data showing intelligent craft performing maneuvers that seems to defy the laws of physics, you have to start taking this seriously.

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Old 08-18-2011, 11:26 AM
 
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NASA hides what it knows about the moon, UFOs and our TRUE history-whitney-darrow-cartoon-eve-astronaut.bmp

(Whitney Darrow, Jr.)
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Old 08-18-2011, 11:47 AM
 
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This is the kind of evidence we are talking about. Not random photos and youtube videos of "UFOs" in the sky which can be faked by anyone. When you have radar data showing intelligent craft performing maneuvers that seems to defy the laws of physics, you have to start taking this seriously.
Not to sound like a pessimist, but we'll see just how seriously this special is taken by the media. The truth is that UFO researchers have had radar evidence and such for decades now. This is nothing new. Dr. J. Allen Hynek admitted on camera that UFOs were real back in the 1970s.


Dr. J Allen Hynek Admits Astronomers do see UFO's ! (1977) - YouTube

^^^Here we are nearly 35 years later and we are still "debating" this topic. So like I said, we'll see how far things progress this time around.
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Old 08-18-2011, 06:46 PM
 
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omg! Fail! Has anyone here ever wondered, if this is such a serious scientific issue, why it is on the religion and philosophy forum? Is that a conspiracy as well? Oh, I know. Neil Armstrong owns this web site and he's got all yous' guys numbas!!! Betta watch out!
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