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Old 08-12-2009, 06:58 PM
 
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Do you believe that illuminati (in whatever incarnation) exists and has any say in the workings of politics (and the world for that matter)? If so, to what capacity?

Conversely, do you feel that the Illuminati is a fairy tale that has absolutely no bearing on today's headlines?
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Fondren SW Yo
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Do you believe that illuminati (in whatever incarnation) exists and has any say in the workings of politics (and the world for that matter)? If so, to what capacity?

Conversely, do you feel that the Illuminati is a fairy tale that has absolutely no bearing on today's headlines?
Yes to all of the above.

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Old 08-12-2009, 07:40 PM
 
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Do you believe that illuminati (in whatever incarnation) exists and has any say in the workings of politics (and the world for that matter)? If so, to what capacity?

Conversely, do you feel that the Illuminati is a fairy tale that has absolutely no bearing on today's headlines?

OHH... I thought Obama was giving awards to 16 Illuminati... Sorry it was Luminaries!!

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/13/us...s/13obama.html
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Do you believe that illuminati (in whatever incarnation) exists and has any say in the workings of politics (and the world for that matter)? If so, to what capacity?

Conversely, do you feel that the Illuminati is a fairy tale that has absolutely no bearing on today's headlines?
The latter.
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:48 PM
 
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It depends on how you define Illuminati. The sinister ancient society of devil worshippers is a fairly tale. If you are talking about a small group of filthy rich who can and do maneuver governments and economies for their own benefit then yes. It's human nature to use every advantage available. That happens at every level of society from surfers who protect "their" beach to street gangs, to trade unions, all the way up to billionaires.
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Oh yeah, they run everything. They are really squirrel masterminding the whole thing, it's why they can have their spies everywhere without people noticing. They are secretly building a vast empire of socks you think you lost in the drier and feeding their army on snacks you thought you bought at the store. Pretty soon they will take over unless you keep your thoughts hidden by your trusty tin foil hat.
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:58 PM
 
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illuminati? no, Bohemian Club...yes.
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Old 08-12-2009, 08:17 PM
 
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It depends on how you define Illuminati. The sinister ancient society of devil worshippers is a fairly tale. If you are talking about a small group of filthy rich who can and do maneuver governments and economies for their own benefit then yes. It's human nature to use every advantage available. That happens at every level of society from surfers who protect "their" beach to street gangs, to trade unions, all the way up to billionaires.
Bolding mine.

I think you nailed it because it doesn't matter what they're called what matters is the Golden Rule:

Those with the most gold, rule.

Those that think that's a silly conspiracy just have no idea of how the world runs and who runs it.
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Old 08-13-2009, 12:17 AM
 
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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Bolding mine.

I think you nailed it because it doesn't matter what they're called what matters is the Golden Rule:

Those with the most gold, rule.

Those that think that's a silly conspiracy just have no idea of how the world runs and who runs it.
Oh yeah...and those old Medieval Guilds....and the "FREEMASONS".
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Old 08-13-2009, 12:21 AM
 
Location: California
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Power behind the power. Always. But it's not always secret. Sometimes it's obvious.
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