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Old 01-03-2016, 10:32 AM
 
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Education Secretary Nicky Morgan has announced that children in future will have to learn their times tables up to 12X12, by the time they finish Primary School.
I thought they already learnt them. If not why not?
Also, as everything is decimal now why would they have to learn the irrelevant two - i.e. 11x11 and 12x12?
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Old 01-03-2016, 10:42 AM
 
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Education Secretary Nicky Morgan has announced that children in future will have to learn their times tables up to 12X12, by the time they finish Primary School.
I thought they already learnt them. If not why not?
Also, as everything is decimal now why would they have to learn the irrelevant two - i.e. 11x11 and 12x12?
we always had to learn them and it stuck all the way through my life.
its not about decimals its about multiplication. 12X12 is a gross by the way.
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Old 01-03-2016, 11:54 AM
 
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It's a life skill and is useful as a platform for other learning.

I can't remember when we had to know our tables but it was long before we were eleven.
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Old 01-03-2016, 12:30 PM
 
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It's a life skill and is useful as a platform for other learning.

I can't remember when we had to know our tables but it was long before we were eleven.
Yep, same here. Probably by the age of seven or eight and I have never lost it.
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Old 01-03-2016, 03:06 PM
 
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I think I started learning them in second grade, and finished by fourth grade. I remember being quizzed on the hard ones (like 7x8) in the car on the way to school.
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Old 01-03-2016, 07:09 PM
 
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we always had to learn them and it stuck all the way through my life.
its not about decimals its about multiplication. 12X12 is a gross by the way.
Yes I appreciate 12x12 is a gross but isn't that equally irrelevant these days? I don't see any youngster needing anything beyond 10x10 in the future. When there were 12 pennies to a shilling, items were counted in dozens and 12 dozen made a gross etc. there was some point to it and no doubt that's why tables went up to 12x12.
An 11 or 12 times table would have no meaning or purpose to a youngster today. If it did then why not 13x13 or 14x14 etc.
I also learnt mine at an early age and have never forgotten them.
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Old 01-04-2016, 12:48 AM
 
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I grew up in England and certainly learned times tables in primary school. Pretty sure I had them down pat by the age of 8 or 9. And as you have all said, you never forget and know the answer to any X times X instantly.

Fast forward 30 years - my daughter went to school in Australia and, while they did do the times table, they didn't make as much of a big deal about them as my English school - there didn't seem to be as much drilling as I had endured! Also they learned them the 'wrong' way around.

I remember:
1 x 4 = 4
2 x 4 = 8
3 x 4 = 12
etc.

In Australia they learn:
4 x 1 = 4
4 x 2 = 8
4 x 3 = 12
etc.

Maybe it's me, but the Australian way seems very odd!

My daughter, now in her thirties, still has to pause a while before she can tell you the answer to 8 x 7 (or whatever)!
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Old 01-04-2016, 01:33 AM
 
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a lot of kids cant do multiplication without a calculator these days so its time the tables were reintroduced.
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Old 01-04-2016, 01:45 AM
 
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In Canada we were expected to learn them up to 12x12 in Grade 4.
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Old 01-04-2016, 02:04 AM
 
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In Canada we were expected to learn them up to 12x12 in Grade 4.
So that's by the age of nine?

We don't have the same way of describing the school years here.
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