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Old 07-04-2016, 06:19 PM
 
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Explain this to an American, how many parties does the UK have? Or rather how do you have so many people stepping down from leadership? How many leaders were there and what? Isn't the captain suppose to get off last?
The UK now has 3 major parties, Conservative, ( Tory ) Labour & The Scottish National Party. ( SNP )
There are of course smaller parties, about half a dozen, the Liberal party being the biggest ( most seats in parliment ) of the smallest

In the case of this thread, the UKIP leader stepped down, as he felt he had accomplished his goal, ie, the UK leaving the EU.
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Old 07-05-2016, 12:28 AM
 
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I thought Tory was separate from Labour, looks like I was wrong. News just goes back and forth with the names so I thought they were talking about different parties.

So if Cameron, and the labour party left, and that leaves the Scottish party, does that mean because Scottland voted to stay in the EU, they get the "majority" of parliament and can then "veto" the brexit vote? Can they "veto", or is that an American thing?

For some reason I thought the parliament there had a house of lords and commons? Are these people resigning all from one house of parliament? Can the other house just not pass brexit?
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Old 07-05-2016, 01:02 AM
 
Location: England
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I thought Tory was separate from Labour, looks like I was wrong. News just goes back and forth with the names so I thought they were talking about different parties.

So if Cameron, and the labour party left, and that leaves the Scottish party, does that mean because Scottland voted to stay in the EU, they get the "majority" of parliament and can then "veto" the brexit vote? Can they "veto", or is that an American thing?

For some reason I thought the parliament there had a house of lords and commons? Are these people resigning all from one house of parliament? Can the other house just not pass brexit?
There are two major parties in Parliament that take turns in forming governments. Similar to your Republicans and Democrats. These are the Conservative, and Labour parties. We have smaller parties that win seats, but are always a minority, such as the Liberal Democrats. We also have a large group of MPs representing Scotland, northern Ireland, and Wales.

I'm doing this from memory, so if I make any mistakes..........

At a general election, we have a first past the post system. 650 constituencies fought for seats in the 2015 election. In each, the person who won the most public votes became the Member of Parliament for that area. The political party that wins the most seats forms a government. Preferably, with more seats, than all the other parties added together. This is known as having a workable majority.

The government right now, is the Conservatives. The Prime Minister, who has resigned, did so because he fought on the side to remain in the EU, and lost. He felt he had lost his mandate to remain as PM. So, there is now an election within his party, the winner of which will become PM.

The official opposition, the Labour party, are having an internal dispute. The majority of MPs have decided they don't like their leader, or his policies. So, they are trying to make him resign. The problem they have, is that he became leader by vote from Labour party members, who are ordinary people. The ones who post leaflets through doors during elections, that sort of thing. They want Jeremy Corbyn to remain as leader.

The Scottish National Party have 56 seats in Parliament. The Conservative government have about 330, or did so at the election last year. They cannot 'veto' the vote to leave the EU. The House of Lords are a load of old people, who like to talk, then doze off after a nice lunch. They don't have the power, the politicians in Parliament do.

There will be people here with a vast knowledge of how the political system runs here, but what I say is basically right.......I think.....
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Old 07-05-2016, 01:06 AM
 
Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
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This hissyfit isn't the first time Farage has "resigned" from UKIP as leader: once in 2009, and again in 2015.

I also wonder if he'll be quitting as an MEP and subsequently giving up his rather lavish salary & benefits from a Union he purports to hate?
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Old 07-05-2016, 01:12 AM
 
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This hissyfit isn't the first time Farage has "resigned" from UKIP as leader: once in 2009, and again in 2015.

I also wonder if he'll be quitting as an MEP and subsequently giving up his rather lavish salary & benefits from a Union he purports to hate?
I think this time he means it Zola. He has achieved what he set out to do many years ago. I guess he wants to step back, and have more of a normal life. He may well remain as a MEP just to annoy them...... He really seemed to enjoy himself there with his last speech.

Plus of course, the money is really good. I don't see ol' Nigel through any rose tinted glasses. But, he got us a vote, which would never have happened without him. This one man has shaken up the whole political establishment. Not just here, but the entire world. For that, I thank him.
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Old 07-05-2016, 01:23 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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I think this time he means it Zola. He has achieved what he set out to do many years ago. I guess he wants to step back, and have more of a normal life. He may well remain as a MEP just to annoy them...... He really seemed to enjoy himself there with his last speech.

Plus of course, the money is really good. I don't see ol' Nigel through any rose tinted glasses. But, he got us a vote, which would never have happened without him. This one man has shaken up the whole political establishment. Not just here, but the entire world. For that, I thank him.
He was laughed and jeered at , but by the ones who hadnt the balls to say what he did.. On you go Nigel, you did and said what you meant and achieved your goal..
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Old 07-05-2016, 01:27 AM
 
Location: England
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He was laughed and jeered at , but by the ones who hadnt the balls to say what he did.. On you go Nigel, you did and said what you meant and achieved your goal..
Yep. Laughed at for years. Like he said, they're not laughing now......... More balls than the rest of them added together.
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Old 07-05-2016, 02:05 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Yep. Laughed at for years. Like he said, they're not laughing now......... More balls than the rest of them added together.
"Great Balls of Fire Farage"
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Old 07-10-2016, 08:50 AM
 
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I am an American that really didn't know all that much about Farage until Brexit. Watching his election night speech and seeing his act in Brussels as well as reading more about him, I can't but help be reminded of Ian Paisley. They have a lot of similarities from what I see and that is not something to be proud of.
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Old 07-10-2016, 08:51 AM
 
Location: England
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I am an American that really didn't know all that much about Farage until Brexit. Watching his election night speech and seeing his act in Brussels as well as reading more about him, I can't but help be reminded of Ian Paisley. They have a lot of similarities from what I see.
Shows how much you know then, doesn't it?
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