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Old 12-08-2011, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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I agree with you. I will add that I do not believe Wal-Mart is an inherently unethical company. Lots of people don't like them, just like they don't like oil companies, but don't have any problems with a hip company like Apple, who makes dramatically higher profits, makes all of its gadgets offshore, and exerts overwhelming control over its partners and customers.
Yep. People don't like Wal-Mart because they don't like people who shop at Wal-Mart, mostly. I admit to a little of that -- Wal-Mart depresses me, although the main reason I never go to one is I've never had one convenient to me (except in college), so I go to stores I'm more familiar with.

The idea of legislating this dislike is such a bad idea that it would make me angry if it actually had any chance of coming true.
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Old 12-08-2011, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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This thread makes me wonder: Should urban planners have dictatorial power over every facet of a city?
That's what I'm thinking. The OP oversimplifies the development process and overestimates how much 'power' or influence a planner wields.
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Old 12-08-2011, 07:52 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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This thread makes me wonder: Should urban planners have dictatorial power over every facet of a city?
Yes. If this planner is me.

Otherwise. No.
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:59 PM
 
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Yep. People don't like Wal-Mart because they don't like people who shop at Wal-Mart, mostly. I admit to a little of that -- Wal-Mart depresses me, although the main reason I never go to one is I've never had one convenient to me (except in college), so I go to stores I'm more familiar with.

The idea of legislating this dislike is such a bad idea that it would make me angry if it actually had any chance of coming true.
They already do that in San Francisco. The chain store law there greatly restricts chain stores from opening up there, yet I haven't heard any complaints from the locals there that it is ruining their economy. In fact they like it and it allows them to have a lot more variety.
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Old 12-09-2011, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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They already do that in San Francisco. The chain store law there greatly restricts chain stores from opening up there, yet I haven't heard any complaints from the locals there that it is ruining their economy. In fact they like it and it allows them to have a lot more variety.
They probably just go somewhere else to get home improvement supplies, stuff like that. SF passed a dumb law that McDonalds and the like couldn't give out free toys in "unhealthy" food packages. So McD's just decided to charge 10c for the toys.
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Old 12-09-2011, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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There's always pissing going on that. In San Francisco, many consider it better to have the abandoned building of a no longer existing chain than to have the building occupied. And then that kicks off protracted fights. The neighbors want the building demolished and replaced with a $10 million dollar mixed-use building to replace it. Of course, if you go a block over then there's another group of NIMBY activists protesting because mixed-use buildings bring in middle-class people which drive up property values, and they'd rather see abandoned buildings than gentrification. Welcome to to San Francisco.
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