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Old 09-30-2018, 08:23 AM
 
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This is the Urban Planning forum. Suburbanites who love suburbia and hate density will disagree with many posts and generally the entire theme here. I'm a suburbanite, but I have thought about leaving, and maybe should have done that years ago.



The suburb is one of the worst ideas ever, since it destroys farmland and increases consumption of everything.

... Said no one.. ever.
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Old 10-01-2018, 06:49 PM
 
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This is the Urban Planning forum. Suburbanites who love suburbia and hate density will disagree with many posts and generally the entire theme here. I'm a suburbanite, but I have thought about leaving, and maybe should have done that years ago.



The suburb is one of the worst ideas ever, since it destroys farmland and increases consumption of everything.
They are boring, compared to the central cities. But they do offer (some) more space and better schools. I personally don't lament the loss of farmland. Farming is really an industrial land use. After harvest, nothing is alive.
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Old 10-05-2018, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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They are boring, compared to the central cities. But they do offer (some) more space and better schools. I personally don't lament the loss of farmland. Farming is really an industrial land use. After harvest, nothing is alive.
They don't offer better schools. The rich kids just go to those schools.
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Old 10-05-2018, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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The suburb is one of the worst ideas ever, since it destroys farmland and increases consumption of everything.
News flash: Just about every city neighborhood in this country was once farmland, or undeveloped land if you go way back.
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Old 10-06-2018, 07:31 PM
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They don't offer better schools. The rich kids just go to those schools.

Nope.



Most suburbanites are not rich. If they were rich they would live in the expensive city and pay for private school.
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Old 10-07-2018, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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News flash: Just about every city neighborhood in this country was once farmland, or undeveloped land if you go way back.


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Old 10-07-2018, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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LOL, right! Cities sprang up fully developed prior to European settlement. They were here when Columbus landed. Heck, they were here when the Vikings landed. Thus, no farmland was destroyed for the cities.
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News flash: Just about every city neighborhood in this country was once farmland, or undeveloped land if you go way back.

The point is, and always has been that, although urban development also displaces farmland, or undeveloped land, urban development uses that land more efficiently than suburban development. Ten households on one acre (which is more "streetcar suburban", but rather urban by US standards) is more efficient than ten households on five or ten acres.
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Old 10-07-2018, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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The point is, and always has been that, although urban development also displaces farmland, or undeveloped land, urban development uses that land more efficiently than suburban development. Ten households on one acre (which is more "streetcar suburban", but rather urban by US standards) is more efficient than ten households on five or ten acres.
That blanket statement is not always true. Plenty of examples of inefficient land use in cities. Furthermore, that is not what the poster said.
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Old 10-07-2018, 11:56 AM
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Ten households on one acre (which is more "streetcar suburban", but rather urban by US standards) is more efficient than ten households on five or ten acres.

Not if there are water issues - either lack of supply in vast swathes of the US or high water tables like vast swathes of the US.
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Old 10-07-2018, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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Not if there are water issues - either lack of supply in vast swathes of the US or high water tables like vast swathes of the US.
Please explain.
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