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I guess Alberta's different; people keep saying how Alberta is the most conservative, Americanized province in Canada.
No, that title would go to Saskatchewan. Canada isn't too different than the USA overall, especially the differences between interior and coastal areas.
At least in terms of major cities, large(r) lot suburbia lasted a lot longer in Quebec than it did in most of the rest of the country. (And also to some degree in Atlantic Canada - I will get to that later.)
Here is a fairly recent development in Quebec City which is 600,000 in the city proper and 800,000 in the metro area:
I guess Alberta's different; people keep saying how Alberta is the most conservative, Americanized province in Canada.
I was recently in Calgary and was amazed at the density of single family homes around the city. What is more amazing is where the density ends there is empty land or farms. We visited the Winsport bobsled run in the western suburbs of Calgary and there was high density housing above the run. The houses (2400sq ft) looked about 6 feet apart and the neighborhood was built in the early 2000s. If I was spending $700k C for suburbia, I wouldn't want to share every burp and bottom burp with my neighbors. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/8...83184796_zpid/
Ah, now I stand corrected. But see my other post comparing Markham Ontario, Naperville (Chicago suburb), and Irvine (Los Angeles suburb) on Google Maps on the same scale. You can see that Markham is clearly denser than Naperville, but that Irvine is also denser than Naperville and that Irvine is at least as dense as Markham.
California also seems to have tract home development that is much denser than the rest of the US.
Ah, now I stand corrected. But see my other post comparing Markham Ontario, Naperville (Chicago suburb), and Irvine (Los Angeles suburb) on Google Maps on the same scale. You can see that Markham is clearly denser than Naperville, but that Irvine is also denser than Naperville and that Irvine is at least as dense as Markham.
California also seems to have tract home development that is much denser than the rest of the US.
so is this thread about why is Irvine denser than most US suburbs, or why Canadian suburbs are generally denser than US suburbs, even if it's a smaller metro area like Edmonton.
Hah, Toronto and surrounding areas is NOT the norm for Canada. The suburban sprawl is basically due to the desirability and historical importance of Toronto. That being an economic engine and immigration hub, with established public transportation (leading to Union Station) and highway grid system.
Imagine in the US, there was only NYC as the place to live. You can sure damn bet that suburban sprawl would be the size of a few states looking like the dense suburbs of Toronto. Meaning land with huge huge lots/farmland, would be bought up by developers and multiple houses built on it. That's what happened here in Toronto and hence the warped view that what happens in Toronto is the norm.
Also, due to Canada's merit based system, with Toronto taking almost half of the countries immigration, many that immigrate here come due to work. A tech worker can basically apply online and get approval in a few months to immigrate as a permanent residence (1 step below citizenship). This leads to people coming to Toronto's core first, renting, than moving out to somewhere more affordable and relatively spacious in the burbs. Could be townhouse, semi as well.
Similar to NYC, We have a regional Train system (GO) that basically is the engine driving this thing. While much smaller, all train lines lead to 1 station. Think of how crowded subway stations get. That's basically many GO Train station, where parking lots to park in them are at or over capacity.
Overall, while the burbs stretch out, it is still not that big here. It is the only main attraction in the whole country for regular people that can realistically live the city life, and the winters/snow probably also play a role in less desire for large properties. Plus, the type of immigrants here do not want to spend alot of time maintaining land.
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