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Old 10-01-2008, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Brusssels
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Meat must be rationed to four portions a week, says report on climate change | Environment | The Guardian

...yet another reason for more people to go veggie.
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Old 10-01-2008, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Maine
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It's good to see climate change and common sense in the same article. Eat local, cook responsibly, moderation, walk...who'd have thought?
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Old 10-01-2008, 08:44 AM
 
Location: wrong planet
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No problem here, haven't had any meat in over 20 years and no plans of ever again consuming any...
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Old 10-03-2008, 02:49 PM
 
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Livestock burps aiding in "global warming". I don't care who you are, that is funny shtuff there!
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Old 10-03-2008, 10:41 PM
 
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It's good to see climate change and common sense in the same article. Eat local, cook responsibly, moderation, walk...who'd have thought?
Me. You, too?
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Old 10-04-2008, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Maine
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Me. You, too?
Me too. I'm a farmer, local is what I do. I'll be glad when this is all common knowledge. Suppose we'll see it in our lifetime? I'm 44 and hopeful.
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Old 10-05-2008, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I bet we will see it in our lifetime Maine Writer, we will have no choice.

I think that factory farming will be greatly regulated if not obliterated in our lifetime. I dont think everyone will be on a vegetarian diet, but I do think that factory farming will be kaput!
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Old 10-05-2008, 03:45 PM
 
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Got a few years on ya' there, Maine Writer ! I don't think we'll see the obliteration of factory farming in our lifetimes. Definitely in our children's lifetime, though.

Ultimately, we will have no choice, as cr1039 said. The choice is already out of our hands (maybe this goes in the Green Section?).

What do you farm, vegetables, cows, itty-bitty lil' chicks()?? I will always support local farms and farmers as best I can. Luckily, here in the PACNW we have an abundance of those folks. Even some of our local fourth-generation farmers are struggling to prevent major gas pipelines cutting through their property (Yamhill and Washington counties). I think they've already lost, though-

I don't mind paying a little more to "support our own." Even though I live in a city, it is completely possible to buy all of our food from nearby farms, including honey. Buy local!!!

As for the OP (hi, xpat), and the environmental impact of factory farming, even soy farming enters iinto that equation. Soy farming is a multi-billion dollar business. Add in land erosion, loss of natural habitat for animals, and destruction of forests and entire villages..ah, jeez-o-pete, we're scr@#%d
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Old 10-05-2008, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Maine
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What do you farm, vegetables, cows, itty-bitty lil' chicks()?? I will always support local farms and farmers as best I can.
Vegetables, small fruits, chickens, ducks and turkey. We sell retail and wholesale. Thanks to unheated greenhouses we harvest fresh vegetables 12 months a year here in Maine. We did raise beef and pork but we've cut back on meat so much it's not worth our time. I don't want to raise it for others if I'm not doing it for myself. We buy and barter a little of each from a farming friend who raises them on pasture 100% of the time. If my husband can cut back on meat I think most anyone can.
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Old 10-05-2008, 06:12 PM
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As for the OP (hi, xpat), and the environmental impact of factory farming, even soy farming enters iinto that equation. Soy farming is a multi-billion dollar business. Add in land erosion, loss of natural habitat for animals, and destruction of forests and entire villages..ah, jeez-o-pete, we're scr@#%d
Consider that soybeans are mainly grown for industrial uses (processed food oils) and livestock uses, then you will see where the problems are. Only a small percent of soybeans are made into people food like tofu and soymilk.

"Livestock feeds account for 98 percent of U.S. soybean meal consumption, with the remainder used in human foods such as bakery ingredients and meat substitutes."

http://www.ers.usda.gov/publications...601_lowres.pdf

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