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Old 09-23-2021, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Virginia-Shenandoah Valley
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I fail to see your argument very valid Rural as we see RTW in approximately half the states meaning there is no RTW in the rest and they function well enough. Both sides seem to have their positives and negatives so your argument seem weak here. And McCauliffe has many issues and I hope he gets blown out of the water but this one seems just a chance on your part to attack. And in case you did not know. Lee Carter is done.

 
Old 09-23-2021, 06:37 AM
 
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Originally Posted by TheMarino View Post
What's your point?

https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/7qb56/

RTW causes inequality economically.

The biggest con of a non-RTW is people having to pay union dues but most unions get the pay of their workers increased therefore it's a net positive. Plus, this is only a thing if the union requires it in the first place. Some states also have it set where the benefits the union gets are also given to non-union workers. So the union has to negotiate on behalf of people who aren't paying any dues.

And let's be honest, "right to work" really means "right to fire". This gets abused all the time.

Ultimately unions increase the quality of life of their workers even if it's not a perfect solution.
Yes without them we don't have a middle calass as we have ALL seen happen in the last 40 yrs. The planet needs our help BUT will we turn our back like we have for 50yrs? The only roadblock to any legislation that helps a majority of citizens is the GOP. The GOP who HATES AND is AFRAID unions.
 
Old 09-23-2021, 06:38 AM
 
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Let me put it another way for you.

Do you think Amazon would be building a second HQ in Virginia if Right-to-Work were not in place? Look at the failure of their HQ2 proposal in NYC.

Right-to-Work = Jobs
You do know that is the big lie from the GOP?
 
Old 09-23-2021, 06:40 AM
 
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"Amazon would have received an estimated $3 billion in tax incentives. The company cited local opposition as a reason for canceling its New York plans. "
Ref: https://www.businessinsider.com/amaz...t%2025%20years.

Note it says "public opposition" no mention of unions so where's your evidence?
Thank you for the citation...info supporting what you are saying form a reputable source.
 
Old 09-23-2021, 06:41 AM
 
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How do you think Youngkin's abortion stance will fly?
 
Old 09-23-2021, 07:01 AM
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Location: Where my bills arrive
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How do you think Youngkin's abortion stance will fly?
About as far as the edge of the parking lot at the polling stations....
 
Old 09-23-2021, 08:49 AM
 
Location: outlying Richmond, Va.
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While it's difficult to make a causal connection between a specific policy and direct economic ramifications, this study demonstrates that Right-to-Work laws are beneficial to a state's overall economic performance, empirically that is:

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Private sector employment grew by 27 percent in RTW states between 2001 and 2016, compared to
15 percent in non-RTW states.


• On average, the annual unemployment rate in RTW states was 0.4 percentage points lower than in
non-RTW states. In concrete terms, if non-RTW states had had the same unemployment rate as RTW
states in 2017, approximately 249,000 more people would have been employed.

• Output has also grown faster in RTW than in non-RTW states, rising by 38 percent between 2001
and 2016, compared to 29 percent in non-RTW states. Four of the top five states with the largest
growth in real per capita output over this period are RTW states.

• The gap in manufacturing output is also substantial: Real manufacturing output rose by over 30
percent in RTW states between 2001 and 2016 compared with 21 percent in non-RTW states.

• Higher growth rates translated into higher personal incomes: Personal income in RTW states rose
over ten percentage points more than in non-RTW states between 2001 and 2016, 39 percent
versus 26 percent.


Businesses tend to locate in RTW states, as evidenced by the more rapid growth of firms
and establishments.


• As of 2017, about four percent of private sector workers in RTW states belonged to unions,
compared with about nine percent in non-RTW states.
https://www.nera.com/content/dam/ner...s_0518_web.pdf
 
Old 09-24-2021, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Nashville, Tennessee
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Originally Posted by VA Yankee View Post
"Amazon would have received an estimated $3 billion in tax incentives. The company cited local opposition as a reason for canceling its New York plans. "
Ref: https://www.businessinsider.com/amaz...t%2025%20years.

Note it says "public opposition" no mention of unions so where's your evidence?
I believe Democratic-Socialist Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez had a huge role in the loss of 25,000 jobs for New York City.
 
Old 10-26-2021, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Northern Va. from N.J.
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Right to work actually means the right to work for less!
 
Old 10-26-2021, 08:49 AM
 
Location: outlying Richmond, Va.
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Right to work actually means the right to work for less!
Why are you against inexperienced, unskilled or undocumented immigrants from working at all? They also need income coming in.

The Right-to-Work allows inexperienced, unskilled or undocumented immigrants to compete for jobs that unions want to monopolize. It allows for folks to acquire the skills they need to compete in the labor market, at a price employers are willing to pay. Otherwise employers will seek out more experienced workers whose higher pay is more commensurate to their skill level.

The unions don't represent these unskilled workers -- they want to remove them from competing for jobs entirely, hence why they back repealing this vital state law.

The Right-to-Work law protects the little guy.

You may not see it because it's not so obvious until you look under the hood.
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