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[badger74]

Originally Posted by NOVA_guy

I’d rather stay in the NoVa bubble. Virginia, like a lot of these southern states these days, seems to have taken steps backwards and it’s embarrassing.

Or forward. https://commercialobserver.com/2023/...rowth-metrics/

[NOVA_guy]

Originally Posted by badger74

Or forward. https://commercialobserver.com/2023/...rowth-metrics/

Or backwards.

Florida Is Trying to Take Away the American Right to Speak Freely

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/04/o...eech-bill.html

Or just yesterday...

“Back to 1902”: Virginia Governor Revives Lifetime Ban on Voting

https://boltsmag.org/virginia-govern...s-restoration/


Everyone is entitled to believe what they want to believe but I will say that one good thing about the last decade is that Virginia was a state that worked hard to rid itself of its reputation as another backwards southern state... a state that was more interested in getting it right and moving forward. And all of that has been quickly eroded which is fine, I guess... that's why we have elections but yeah... I'd personally rather stay in the DC/NoVa bubble.

[VA Outdoorsman]

Originally Posted by NOVA_guy

Or backwards.
Or just yesterday...
https://boltsmag.org/virginia-govern...s-restoration/


Everyone is entitled to believe what they want to believe but I will say that one good thing about the last decade is that Virginia was a state that worked hard to rid itself of its reputation as another backwards southern state... a state that was more interested in getting it right and moving forward. And all of that has been quickly eroded which is fine, I guess... that's why we have elections but yeah... I'd personally rather stay in the DC/NoVa bubble.

Personally, I agree with the Governor's stance. Violent ex-felons -- notice the distinction in the policy -- must go through an extra step to have their voting rights restored instead of the state doing it for them automatically. What is wrong with that? If you committed a violent offense there must be some continued checks in place. This isn't mob rule.

[NOVA_guy]

Originally Posted by VA Outdoorsman

Personally, I agree with the Governor's stance. Violent ex-felons -- notice the distinction in the policy -- must go through an extra step to have their voting rights restored instead of the state doing it for them automatically. What is wrong with that? If you committed a violent offense there must be some continued checks in place. This isn't mob rule.

Yeah, you won't ever find me defending felons. To me, though it's more of a holistic thing -- the issue is Youngkin and the legislation he's passed and has come out in support of it. A lot of it has been draconian, nonsensical and regressive which to be fair is not unique to Virginia, it's happening a lot in the south right now.

[VA Yankee]

Originally Posted by VA Outdoorsman

Personally, I agree with the Governor's stance. Violent ex-felons -- notice the distinction in the policy -- must go through an extra step to have their voting rights restored instead of the state doing it for them automatically. What is wrong with that? If you committed a violent offense there must be some continued checks in place. This isn't mob rule.

Draconian, how long will they drag their feet on those that apply? The linked article doesn't distinguish what type of felons it states " Going forward, Virginians will no longer regain their rights when released from prison—the most recent policy announced by Virginia officials in 2021—nor at any later point, unless Youngkin deems them to be worthy on an individual basis. "

So if a person is convicted of "Willful discharge of a firearm in public" which is a class 6 felony they should lose their voting rights for life? What's next loss of driving privilege's for life for a DUI....

[VA Outdoorsman]

Originally Posted by VA Yankee

Draconian, how long will they drag their feet on those that apply? The linked article doesn't distinguish what type of felons it states " Going forward, Virginians will no longer regain their rights when released from prison—the most recent policy announced by Virginia officials in 2021—nor at any later point, unless Youngkin deems them to be worthy on an individual basis. "

So if a person is convicted of "Willful discharge of a firearm in public" which is a class 6 felony they should lose their voting rights for life? What's next loss of driving privilege's for life for a DUI....

Under the previous Governor Northam, felons could vote even while still serving their sentence on probation or parole. That is extreme.

This order by Youngkin corrects a wrong, putting the onus on felons to apply to have their voting rights restored. The article also states that the updated voting forms elicit information from felons on the nature of their felony, asking them whether it was violent or not. That may go into the consideration. Seems perfectly reasonable and sane to me. I'd rather have it this way than automatic restoration.

[16 Acres]

Originally Posted by NOVA_guy

Virginia, like a lot of these southern states these days, seems to have taken steps backwards and it’s embarrassing.

I gave this thread a rest, but jumping back in here, give us some details of what you call "steps backwards and embarrassing".

[16 Acres]

Originally Posted by VA Outdoorsman

Under the previous Governor Northam, felons could vote even while still serving their sentence on probation or parole. That is extreme.

This order by Youngkin corrects a wrong, putting the onus on felons to apply to have their voting rights restored. The article also states that the updated voting forms elicit information from felons on the nature of their felony, asking them whether it was violent or not. That may go into the consideration. Seems perfectly reasonable and sane to me. I'd rather have it this way than automatic restoration.

Well stated.

[VA Yankee]

Originally Posted by VA Outdoorsman

Under the previous Governor Northam, felons could vote even while still serving their sentence on probation or parole. That is extreme.

This order by Youngkin corrects a wrong, putting the onus on felons to apply to have their voting rights restored. The article also states that the updated voting forms elicit information from felons on the nature of their felony, asking them whether it was violent or not. That may go into the consideration. Seems perfectly reasonable and sane to me. I'd rather have it this way than automatic restoration.

And having to apply and based on suitability is just as bad, let the law reflect criteria and let the reinstatement be part of an inmates parole. The documents relating to their incarceration reflect
what they did a, person should just have to ask that it be considered.

[badger74]

The brief age of going soft on crime and criminals is ending rapidly nearly everywhere. Even NY, SF and Seattle are reconsidering what they did.