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[adelphi_sky]

Some pretty bold prognostications from those involved with DC's Wharf redevelopment. It will be interesting to see how the two harbors begin to stack up once both are fully complete. Fightin' words hurled toward the Peterson Companies?

The 24-acre The Wharf is going to be better than Baltimore's Inner Harbor and the National Harbor in Prince George's County, and it won't need a casino to bolster it. The 3.2 million-square-foot mixed use project will turn Southwest D.C. from the quadrant that could to the quadrant that can. The $1.5 billion waterfront development will be part of Washington's rise to to one of the greatest cities in the world.

Read more: PN Hoffman, Madison Marquette kick off development of The Wharf in Southwest D.C. (Video) - Washington Business Journal

The Wharf has a few things going for it.

1. Proximity to downtown DC. People sometimes confuse National Harbor with DC. The Wharf will have the privilege of actually being in DC and even within relative walking distance to the Mall. Thousands of tourists won't need to catch a cab or water taxi to get to the Wharf as with National Harbor. This gives the Wharf a marked advantage.

2. Transit. The Wharf will enjoy close proximity to mass transit. Not only will tourists enjoy a quick hop to The Wharf, so will everyone else with access to Metro. Advantage: The Wharf.

3. History. There is history at the Wharf. This includes Arena Stage, Phillips, nightclubs, and the seafood market. These go way back for decades. This makes National Harbor seem more like an isolated town center on steroids than an authentic place connected to DC by geography, history, and tradition; sort of the disconnected feel everyone talks about when referring to National Harbor.

Will these advantages be enough to entice patrons from National Harbor? Perhaps. Time will tell. MGM has an international draw. It is something to do that is entertaining rather than eat and shop, which it also has all by itself. Though there will be a performing arts piece for the Wharf. Aside from shops and restaurants, what else will it offer? An indoor seafood market? That would be cool.

National Harbor has the Tanger Outlets, also a regional draw. Not so much now that outlet centers are becoming as plentiful as neighborhood malls. The Wharf will undoubtedly have some interesting retail being so close to the nucleus of tourism for the entire region.

Will National Harbor reign supreme with the Wheel, MGM, Tanger, Gaylord, and the Children's Museum, Food & Wine festival, etc? Can the Wharf create an atmosphere equal to that of National Harbor? Time will tell. I'm excited for both projects.

I wish these projects happened 20 years ago. DC has been pretty boring for a long time.

Once Alexandria gets their waterfront together, I can imagine pub crawls between the three via water taxi. That would be kinda awesome.

A little competition is good for the entire area. I say bring it on DC! Let's see what you can do!

[UrbanScholar]

Originally Posted by adelphi_sky

Some pretty bold prognostications from those involved with DC's Wharf redevelopment. It will be interesting to see how the two harbors begin to stack up once both are fully complete. Fightin' words hurled toward the Peterson Companies?

Read more: PN Hoffman, Madison Marquette kick off development of The Wharf in Southwest D.C. (Video) - Washington Business Journal

The Wharf has a few things going for it.

1. Proximity to downtown DC. People sometimes confuse National Harbor with DC. The Wharf will have the privilege of actually being in DC and even within relative walking distance to the Mall. Thousands of tourists won't need to catch a cab or water taxi to get to the Wharf as with National Harbor. This gives the Wharf a marked advantage.

2. Transit. The Wharf will enjoy close proximity to mass transit. Not only will tourists enjoy a quick hop to The Wharf, so will everyone else with access to Metro. Advantage: The Wharf.

3. History. There is history at the Wharf. This includes Arena Stage, Phillips, nightclubs, and the seafood market. These go way back for decades. This makes National Harbor seem more like an isolated town center on steroids than an authentic place connected to DC by geography, history, and tradition; sort of the disconnected feel everyone talks about when referring to National Harbor.

Will these advantages be enough to entice patrons from National Harbor? Perhaps. Time will tell. MGM has an international draw. It is something to do that is entertaining rather than eat and shop, which it also has all by itself. Though there will be a performing arts piece for the Wharf. Aside from shops and restaurants, what else will it offer? An indoor seafood market? That would be cool.

National Harbor has the Tanger Outlets, also a regional draw. Not so much now that outlet centers are becoming as plentiful as neighborhood malls. The Wharf will undoubtedly have some interesting retail being so close to the nucleus of tourism for the entire region.

Will National Harbor reign supreme with the Wheel, MGM, Tanger, Gaylord, and the Children's Museum, Food & Wine festival, etc? Can the Wharf create an atmosphere equal to that of National Harbor? Time will tell. I'm excited for both projects.

I wish these projects happened 20 years ago. DC has been pretty boring for a long time.

Once Alexandria gets their waterfront together, I can imagine pub crawls between the three via water taxi. That would be kinda awesome.

A little competition is good for the entire area. I say bring it on DC! Let's see what you can do!

I agree that competition is a good thing. I also agree that the Wharf will have inherent advantages being in DC. I was a little underwhelmed by its size compared to NH or Alexandria but that could be relative depending on what new pops up near by.

I think that each one will begin to develop its own personality and will attract people that align with that. Although I can see myself going down there once or twice, I can see that being a big hang spot for me because it is in DC. I work in the city so being in the city during my down time is not my idea of fun.

One downside that both will share is parking. NH can be expensive and the Wharf will have a deficit given the area. Of course there is the metro but the metro can be a pain on the weekends, especially coming from MD into DC (IMO). Hopefully the three will work together to compliment what each other offers since they will all service the same market. One thing that I am not crazy about is the architecture at the Wharf. Its kind of bland. I know that it echoes other architecture in the area but would love to see them step outside of the box.

[RamblingMan]

I think that new developments on the Potomac may actually help each other more than they compete. My guess is that more activity on the waterfront will lead to more water taxis running between The Wharf, NH, Old Town, and Georgetown Harbor and increased activity for all of them. Also, I think there are enough differences between the various waterfront developments that they have their own niches. The Wharf will have the advantage of its downtown location and metro access. It will probably be the better spot for drinks after work. NH has its convention center which allows it to play in an entirely different field. The casino (which I presume will bring associated entertainment, dining, and shopping options) will also create a unique draw for NH.

As an aside, my hope is that more activity on the Potomac will also lead to increased incentives to clean up the Anacostia and maybe do a better job of dealing with DC's trash and runoff issues. You wouldn't believe the amount of trash that comes downriver after a really hard rain.

[adelphi_sky]

I wish ALL projects could move through the approval process this quickly.

"We are preparing to break ground as quickly as possible at National Harbor," Lorenzo Creighton, MGM National Harbor president, told the Maryland Lottery and Gaming Control Commission on Thursday. "We are working closely with Prince George’s County officials to start as soon as possible. As soon as we have the proper permits and approvals, we won’t miss a day, because we are committed to beginning the flow of benefits as quickly as possible.


"Our team is prepared to move dirt in the next three weeks, before the end of April," he added.

Read more: MGM National Harbor could break ground as soon as April (Video) - Washington Business Journal

[Mr Beco]

Originally Posted by adelphi_sky

I wish ALL projects could move through the approval process this quickly.




Read more: MGM National Harbor could break ground as soon as April (Video) - Washington Business Journal

They want to get it started before anymore lawsuits come about..............

[adelphi_sky]

What will happen to Cirque du Soleil now that the previous space will be gone due to the MGM construction? Will there now be a pavillion at the ex-Disney site? NH is running out of room.

Personally I think they should create a city block for events just like that. Have it like the opera house in Australia, but on a smaller scale where they can have opera's concerts, circuses, etc.

[Optimistic20744]

Originally Posted by adelphi_sky

What will happen to Cirque du Soleil now that the previous space will be gone due to the MGM construction? Will there now be a pavillion at the ex-Disney site? NH is running out of room.

Personally I think they should create a city block for events just like that. Have it like the opera house in Australia, but on a smaller scale where they can have opera's concerts, circuses, etc.

They will just have it inside the mgm like the vegas shows.

Cirque du Soleil

[UrbanScholar]

Originally Posted by adelphi_sky

I wish ALL projects could move through the approval process this quickly.




Read more: MGM National Harbor could break ground as soon as April (Video) - Washington Business Journal

It helps that the National Harbor as a whole has already been approved. The only thing left is the DSP, County Council approval and permits. Skipping the preliminary stuff has shaved off month. My question is when did it become a 50 acre development? Wasn't it 22 in Dec?

MGM National Harbor, sitting on 50 sloped acres adjacent to and south of the Capital Beltway, will include 3,600 slots and 140 table games, a 1,200-seat theater, a 300-room hotel, 35,000 square feet of meeting space and numerous restaurants and retail stores.

[UrbanScholar]

Originally Posted by adelphi_sky

What will happen to Cirque du Soleil now that the previous space will be gone due to the MGM construction? Will there now be a pavillion at the ex-Disney site? NH is running out of room.

Personally I think they should create a city block for events just like that. Have it like the opera house in Australia, but on a smaller scale where they can have opera's concerts, circuses, etc.

They still plan on having it where they have always had it this year. Afterwards, I agree with the other poster that it will probably be an inside performance. Either at the MGM or maybe that lot across from the Gaylord. I heard that the National Harbor is supposed to be making a big announcement sometime soon. Maybe they will be announcing the some type of performance venue.

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[icebergfella]

As many arguments occur about the functionality and capabilities of the National Harbor, I still see it as great that they were able to have success with the area/project in general. To think back 10 or so years it was just uninhabited Woods to now. Things could always be done better, but for where it came from, I'm happy with its current trajectory.