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Old 12-23-2011, 11:20 AM
 
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Move the people give them just compensation and tear that crap down, and it shouldnt matter if its white or black. Example, I am ALL FOR tearing down the Mormon temple near 495 and 270. That silly thing causes traffic delays for that entire region and indirectly lowers quality of life. They do great things for the community I am sure, but why the hell do you have to have your goods poked out all over the beltway.

One small group (white black rich poor) should not cause a degradation of the quality of life for an entire region. Thats the problem in DC, its very difficult to live without molestation from some other group.
Funny that you complain that Loudon County is boring, yet want to destroy the urban fabric that makes DC interesting just so people from what you claim are boring places can get to their boring jobs more quickly.

Sorry, but the future lies in revitalizing cities, not destroying them. Many cities are removing highways now:

Downtown need a makeover? More cities are razing urban highways - CSMonitor.com
"In New Haven, Conn., a mistake of the past – one that displaced hundreds, razed a neighborhood, and physically divided a city – is finally set to be rectified: A highway is going to be demolished."


DC is thriving in part because it invested in transit and residents kept neighborhoods like Dupont and Adams Morgan from being destroyed by planned interstates. The areas that do have highways have been the slowest to rebound. You're about 60 years too late.
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Old 12-23-2011, 11:23 AM
 
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Change it completely, take it to Montogmery, AL or Fayetteville, NC where the government specialists will actually have a chance to get ahead. The people in Loudon dispite all of the high incomes live boring lives. There is enough money to pay rent/mortgage, car note, and maybe take an annual trip. Change it completely by leaving the region and get a chance to actually live.
Business ecosystems thrive in proximity. That's why they cluster in places like Silicon Valley or Wall Street. The same is true for government. Dispersing its various components isn't going to make it function any more efficiently.
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Old 12-23-2011, 12:41 PM
 
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Business ecosystems thrive in proximity. That's why they cluster in places like Silicon Valley or Wall Street. The same is true for government. Dispersing its various components isn't going to make it function any more efficiently.
With technologies like VOIP video chat and entire groups of employees that telecommute being "close" to another business is no longer a requirement. This is exactly why DC the government is leaving the area (and its a good idea). There is being close to IP like silicon valley and all of the entrepreneurs out there, but DC doesnt produce anything of value (outside of government regulation) so the government being close to itself is a useless idea.

Look at MDA (Missle Defense Agency). They are responsible for developing, testing and fielding missles. How much of that can you actually do in the beltway? They need to hire rocket scientists (seriously), how many have you met at Logan Square? So...they packed up their HQ, and moved to Huntsville otherwise known as (GASP) Rocket city USA (that show about redneck Rocket scientists is out of huntsville). Are they in a better place? I think so.

There is not much to be gained for keeping everyone in the same location for the sake of doing so, you keep people in the same location for the sake of collaboration and cross communication, DC by nature is not a collaborative community. The Treasury department does not work with NASA, and NASA does not work with FHA. They dont "need" to be close to one another. What really should be done is a strategic thought process about what can be achieved by moving to a better location that can help achieve that organizations goals.

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Old 12-23-2011, 12:58 PM
 
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Pretty disheartening to see so many people advocating for aggressive eminent domain policies, specifically in areas dominated by private homes and communities, all under the guise of "economic recovery." Granted, there are some cases in where eminent domain is justified (public use) but a line should be crossed, which is something some of you refuse to acknowledge based on your assertions.
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Old 12-23-2011, 01:06 PM
 
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Funny that you complain that Loudon County is boring, yet want to destroy the urban fabric that makes DC interesting just so people from what you claim are boring places can get to their boring jobs more quickly.

Sorry, but the future lies in revitalizing cities, not destroying them. Many cities are removing highways now:

Downtown need a makeover? More cities are razing urban highways - CSMonitor.com
"In New Haven, Conn., a mistake of the past – one that displaced hundreds, razed a neighborhood, and physically divided a city – is finally set to be rectified: A highway is going to be demolished."


DC is thriving in part because it invested in transit and residents kept neighborhoods like Dupont and Adams Morgan from being destroyed by planned interstates. The areas that do have highways have been the slowest to rebound. You're about 60 years too late.
Newsroom: American Community Survey (ACS): Americans Spend More Than 100 Hours Commuting to Work Each Year, Census Bureau Reports

DC ranked #2 nationwide in commute time. I am sure all of those people stuck in cars are ecstatic about Adams morgan not being torn down.

Especially all of the folks that have lived here an average of 2-3 years after relocating from somewhere else. DC has already lost its character, atleast make it bearable for some....
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Old 12-23-2011, 01:19 PM
 
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Pretty disheartening to see so many people advocating for aggressive eminent domain policies, specifically in areas dominated by private homes and communities, all under the guise of "economic recovery." Granted, there are some cases in where eminent domain is justified (public use) but a line should be crossed, which is something some of you refuse to acknowledge based on your assertions.
I think you are jumping to tons of conclusions.
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Old 12-23-2011, 01:24 PM
 
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Pretty disheartening to see so many people advocating for aggressive eminent domain policies, specifically in areas dominated by private homes and communities, all under the guise of "economic recovery." Granted, there are some cases in where eminent domain is justified (public use) but a line should be crossed, which is something some of you refuse to acknowledge based on your assertions.
I just think that areas of high crime, high poverty, and general misery should be bulldozed ASAP if there is a better use for that land. If a community isn't adding anything positive to the city or to itself.. why preserve it? For what?

If the community is improving, becoming peaceful and contributing to the city.. then it should be left alone.
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Old 12-23-2011, 02:10 PM
 
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Newsroom: American Community Survey (ACS): Americans Spend More Than 100 Hours Commuting to Work Each Year, Census Bureau Reports

DC ranked #2 nationwide in commute time. I am sure all of those people stuck in cars are ecstatic about Adams morgan not being torn down.

Especially all of the folks that have lived here an average of 2-3 years after relocating from somewhere else. DC has already lost its character, atleast make it bearable for some....
Totally man. Let's just gut the whole city until there's nothing left but highways, parking garages, and offices! Please tell me you aren't involved in urban planning in any way, shape, or form....
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Old 12-23-2011, 04:59 PM
 
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Totally man. Let's just gut the whole city until there's nothing left but highways, parking garages, and offices! Please tell me you aren't involved in urban planning in any way, shape, or form....
Naw let's do the opposite and rip out 395 and put neighborhoods in its place, in fact we should ban cars in the city! That will show those damn environmentalists who's boss!!
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Old 12-23-2011, 06:15 PM
 
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No way! 395 is a huge tourist draw and people come from all over the country to admire it! Real estate values near it are so big too because there's nothing more beautiful than a massive interstate in your front yard. I say we expand it and run it right through the national mall and up through rock creek park where we can expand it to 24 lanes! Then to make parking easier we'll just demolish all buildings built before 1980 and put surface parking or garages there. No worries about shopping though because we'll build an underground shopping mall that will become an international destination just like the one in Crystal City.

Washington DC will be just as remarkable as Cleveland. It's too bad those morons in NYC don't get it LOL but they'll be eating our dust!
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