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After living in Atlanta for a while I can't wait to get back up to DC. Compared to Atlanta, DC is in Quebec. Yes, a little hyperbole here, but any aspect of Southerness it had has definitely been erased by the population growth in DC metro and the arrival of international people and immigrants settling nearby.
The modern mason dixon line is the northern border of Tennessee and North Carolina IMO. Pretty soon, you might not even be able to include North Carolina.
My wife is from Mississippi, and she considers anything north of TN, the "north". A very common perception in the south. VA, DC, MD, ceased being truly southern a long time ago.
dc's finest, i'm from philly and i can guarantee that philly has a bigger skyline then seattle and dallas, houston may have taller buildings but philly has a more extensive skyline with many more taller buildings then houstons like 10, also dc is north now, if it can't b put in the class with charlotte and atlanta then it isn't southern.
I'm not sure the old labels of southern city vs northern city still works Certainly there are more than two choices -- Midwestern city, international city? So many people move into and back out of Washington after a few years that it seems implausible that the city could be anything but an amalgam of the rest of the country. I've been here since 1979 and consider it home, but I have only a couple of friends who were born here. Almost everyone I know, whether short- or long-term resident is a transplant and we all bring a piece of where we grew up with us.
I don't know if Philly's skyline is bigger than Seattle. I have been to both places and I think Seattle has Philly beat in that regard. But I like Philly more because it's a great place to live.
It was established to be a bridge between the North and the South and that is what it remains.
Today, I would agree with richurch that DC is an international city.
It is definitely part of the Northeast corridor and has very little in common with Charlotte / Charleston. There's just this undefined barrier south of DC. Nevertheless, DC is not Northern, in that cities like Philly, NY, and Boston have very engrained "Northern" or New England cultures that juxtapose the Southern cultures engrained in Atlanta or Charlotte.
DC is a collection of people from all over the country and the world. Gotta love it.
i believe that d.c. is a hybrid of north and south, though primarily south. first, no one seems to have recognized that black folks have been extremely instrumental in shaping the culture and image of d.c. its important to remember that the district contained one of the largest free black populations on the east coast. more importantly, the city has been a predominantly black city since the 60's and peaked at 71 percent in 1970. most of the blacks in d.c. have roots in the south, particularly north carolina, and this can be seen in the local dialect/slang. d.c. is, geographically, also a very small city, unlike new york, philly, and boston. also, d.c. does not have a "northern" skyline - only a few federal buildings, the capital, and the wash. monument.
but with all that being said, d.c. is highly concentrated and compact like a northern city; it also has one of the most efficient subway lines on the east coast (right behind new york); and it contains a vast array of housing stock and architecture that you can not find anywhere in the south. i have not seen a neighborhood like shaw, columbia heights, or capital hill anywhere in the south.
late but actually dc's landmass is larger than boston, msa too. dc is about 60 sq mi of land vs 40 for bos. atlanta is as large as philly I think. landwise. houston , landwise is larger tha nyc and even LA.
i believe that d.c. is a hybrid of north and south, though primarily south. first, no one seems to have recognized that black folks have been extremely instrumental in shaping the culture and image of d.c. its important to remember that the district contained one of the largest free black populations on the east coast. more importantly, the city has been a predominantly black city since the 60's and peaked at 71 percent in 1970. most of the blacks in d.c. have roots in the south, particularly north carolina, and this can be seen in the local dialect/slang. d.c. is, geographically, also a very small city, unlike new york, philly, and boston. also, d.c. does not have a "northern" skyline - only a few federal buildings, the capital, and the wash. monument.
Ummm... by this logic then Detroit, Cleveland, and Chicago are Southern cities because they have large concentrations of blacks with ancestral roots in the South.
DC has just under 600,000 residents, which is about the same as Boston. Plus, you can't hold DC's building height restriction in the same category as the strip mall sprawl of Southern cities.
DC's definitely part of the Northeast corridor, but it's a national / international city defying any North versus South categorization.
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