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At worst, I suspect any month in Adelaide will feel like a marginal improvement over Toronto.
It's just weird how their extra aridity doesn't seem to increase their chance of sun much over the rest of southeastern Oz.
Plus Adelaide's 19 days vs. Perth's 2 days is a stark contrast, though their climates are similar.
Sounds like Brisbane's % chance of sun difference would be barely noticeable,
however that's impressive that it's closer to the Northern Wet storms,
yet it certainly doesn't harm their chance of sun vs. Sydney.
Darwin is only 8% cloudier?
No re Toronto vs. Adelaide - in astronomical terms (add 3-4% for realistically recordable: the differences in Adelaide's favour are large for every month of the year, averaging almost 20% of the possible and ranging from 9.5% to over 25% (14.2% for summer). That's huge. You should pay closer attention to the data, and less to general impressions.
Also, Adelaide gets 118 days with 0.2mm or more rainfall, cf. Toronto's 145.
Brisbane gets about 6.5% more sun annually than Sydney - much less of a difference, but I would notice it.
The 19 days vs 2 days Perth vs. Adelaide gives an exaggerated impression. Records so far for Perth Aero vs. Adelaide Aero have it about 9.2% ahead annually, and 11.5% for summer.
Darwin's dullest month gets about 45% vs. Sydney's 53%, and the former has a steep climb out of monsoon cloudiness, with only Perth Aero heading it off on an annual basis for the capitals.
No re Toronto vs. Adelaide - in astronomical terms (add 3-4% for realistically recordable: the differences in Adelaide's favour are large for every month of the year, averaging almost 20% of the possible and ranging from 9.5% to over 25% (14.2% for summer). That's huge. You should pay closer attention to the data, and less to general impressions.
Also, Adelaide gets 118 days with 0.2mm or more rainfall, cf. Toronto's 145.
The 19 days vs 2 days Perth vs. Adelaide gives an exaggerated impression. Records so far for Perth Aero vs. Adelaide Aero have it about 9.2% ahead annually, and 11.5% for summer.
You misunderstood me.
I meant that as a lifelong resident of Toronto,
I anticipate that Adelaide "should" feel slightly sunnier than Toronto, for any equivalent season. (ie. Toronto's Oct or Nov vs. Adelaide's Apr or May)
But I wouldn't expect the difference in sunshine will be a stark contrast as with Perth, though Adelaide's aridity should be a stark contrast to Toronto.
Just a bad few months?
I think I heard Trimac saying winter in Perth has been drier than it should have been.
You misunderstood me.
I meant that as a lifelong resident of Toronto,
I anticipate that Adelaide "should" feel slightly sunnier than Toronto, for any equivalent season. (ie. Toronto's Oct or Nov vs. Adelaide's Apr or May)
But I wouldn't expect the difference in sunshine will be a stark contrast as with Perth, though Adelaide's aridity should be a stark contrast to Toronto.
Just a bad few months?
I think I heard Trimac saying winter in Perth has been drier than it should have been.
OK, but either 20% (Adelaide) or 29% (Perth) is stark to me. If you want more explanation as to the difference between drier (but less seasonal) Adelaide and sunnier Perth, there are plenty of good references. Starting at the BOM website should be useful.
OK, but either 20% (Adelaide) or 29% (Perth) is stark to me.
If you want more explanation as to the difference between drier (but less seasonal) Adelaide and sunnier Perth, there are plenty of good references.
Starting at the BOM website should be useful.
In terms of shear %, yes.
But what's stark to me about Perth is Trimac20 has never seen more than 2 sunless days in Perth, ever.
I'd hazard a guess that Perth gets about 20 sunless days annually, while Toronto it feels like 100.
I'd assume Adelaide gets about 50 sunless days.
So for Adelaide's worst, longest gloomy periods, it should feel slightly better than Toronto's worst.
Perth's worst, longest gloomy periods by contrast should be a joke to a Torontonian.
It's the consistancy of Perth's sun, rather than just sun hours.
I've compared Adelaide's annual and monthly sunshine totals to places I'm familiar within the the Southeastern USA.
Adelaide is not quite as sunny as the majority of South Carolina, but is about equal with North Alabama; rainier than most of SC.
I know how certain places make me feel, based on sunshine totals, and I don't think Adelaide's sunshine totals will "impress me."
But I could see myself being potentially satisfied with 2700 hrs of annual sun.
Adelaide's sunshine totals are disappointing,
when compared to the southeastern US at a similar latitude with Adelaide's scant annual rainfall totals.
Places with annual sunshine totals like Adelaide nearly approach rainforest levels of moisture.
In the southeastern USA,
I'm used to seeing mostly sunny skies (3.5 oktas?) with up to 65% arvo humidity
and whenever the humidity is under 50%, blue-dome skies predominate. (under 2 oktas)
Using that pattern with Adelaide's humidity, it would push their annual totals to 3200+ hrs of sun.
*I understand that Adelaide has lower rain totals, but also less seasonal variation vs. Perth.
I like BOM's website and am thoroughly familiar with it.
In terms of shear %, yes.
But what's stark to me about Perth is Trimac20 has never seen more than 2 sunless days in Perth, ever.
I'd hazard a guess that Perth gets about 20 sunless days annually, while Toronto it feels like 100.
I'd assume Adelaide gets about 50 sunless days.
So for Adelaide's worst, longest gloomy periods, it should feel slightly better than Toronto's worst.
Perth's worst, longest gloomy periods by contrast should be a joke to a Torontonian.
It's the consistancy of Perth's sun, rather than just sun hours.
I've compared Adelaide's annual and monthly sunshine totals to places I'm familiar within the the Southeastern USA.
Adelaide is not quite as sunny as the majority of South Carolina, but is about equal with North Alabama; rainier than most of SC.
I know how certain places make me feel, based on sunshine totals, and I don't think Adelaide's sunshine totals will "impress me."
But I could see myself being potentially satisfied with 2700 hrs of annual sun.
Adelaide's sunshine totals are disappointing,
when compared to the southeastern US at a similar latitude with Adelaide's scant annual rainfall totals.
Places with annual sunshine totals like Adelaide nearly approach rainforest levels of moisture.
In the southeastern USA,
I'm used to seeing mostly sunny skies (3.5 oktas?) with up to 65% arvo humidity
and whenever the humidity is under 50%, blue-dome skies predominate. (under 2 oktas)
Using that pattern with Adelaide's humidity, it would push their annual totals to 3200+ hrs of sun.
*I understand that Adelaide has lower rain totals, but also less seasonal variation vs. Perth.
I like BOM's website and am thoroughly familiar with it.
The average I have for Adelaide (though needs a bit of updating) is 2799 hours, about 63.5% of the astronomical possible. The sunniest of 3 locations in my tables for SC is 64%, so there isn't much difference. None of the 3 I have for Alabama exceeds 59%.
Presumably you are talking about days of rainfall? ("rainier than most of SC"). Adelaide Aero averages 79 days/annum with 1.0mm or more - what are the values for SC towns?
I've compared Adelaide's annual and monthly sunshine totals to places I'm familiar within the the Southeastern USA.
Adelaide is not quite as sunny as the majority of South Carolina, but is about equal with North Alabama; rainier than most of SC.
I know how certain places make me feel, based on sunshine totals, and I don't think Adelaide's sunshine totals will "impress me."
But I could see myself being potentially satisfied with 2700 hrs of annual sun.
Just a quick side note (I’m sure you know this already) …but Northern Alabama/Northern Gerogia often gets the debris of that Tennessee Valley cloud deck …and is consequently cloudier than the areas closer to the Atlantic along the coastal plain. Most sections of northern Alabama get only 2700 -2750 hours of sunshine annually…while parts of interior South Carolina get 3000. In fact, in the Sand hills (a strip of ancient beach dunes which generally divides the Piedmont from the coastal plain), gets over 3000 hours of sunshine annually from around Sumter southwestward (Orangeburg, SC gets 3088 hrs of sunshine according to their reporting NOAA site). Of course 3,000 hours is nothing on the dry side of the USA, but on the wetter Eastern side of the USA mainland, interior South Carolina/west Florida are the only areas to get 3,000 hours of sunshine or more. Anyway here is the NOAA map from thier site you might find interesting (esp in SC):
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