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View Poll Results: What category is closest to describing Portland's climate?
4-season temperate 4 12.90%
Marine/Oceanic 20 64.52%
Humid Subtropical 0 0%
Mediterranean 7 22.58%
Voters: 31. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-27-2012, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Paris
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I wish I knew more about Toulouse, though just looking at the map it does look as though it straddles the line of C/D climates.
It indeed does. It's a Do climate but by a very thin margin, as March averages 9.8°C and November 9.6°C. If the warming trend continues there, it will most likely become a C climate by the 1991-2020 normals.
Portland is quite into the Do type compared to this.
I voted cool summer Mediterranean because of July's 16 mm, but looking at random places around it on streetwiew it does not have the vegetation I usually associate with Mediterranean climates. But then again I've only been to places with Csa climates, not Csb.


I'd agree with Nivalis' last post.
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Old 08-27-2012, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Whether it's Csb or Do seems largely based on your preferred climate system. I like the cool-summer Mediterranean designation as links together climates ( like Point Reyes, Sequim, etc. ) that might otherwise be split by the subtropical designation.

As for whether Mediterranean climate equals "like the climates by the Mediterranean", a good deal of the Mediterranean coastline has humid subtropical or semi-arid and arid climates:

Almería - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Rijeka - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Much of even the more properly Mediterranean Mediterranean region has a rather more ambiguous rainfall pattern, I'm thinking especially of the area around the Spanish coastline, the Adriatic, the northern Aegean, and the western part of France's Mediterranean coast ( e.g. places like Montpellier where only one month qualifies them for Csa. )
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Old 08-27-2012, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Looking at the numbers, it seems oceanic. But its also too sunny in summer, and very dry.

So i would say Oceanic with a dry summer .
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Old 08-28-2012, 02:02 AM
 
Location: Newcastle NSW Australia
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4-season cool-temperate in this case.
Overall too much rain for a Mediterranean climate, and only 2 dry months in summer (most Mediterranean have 4-5 dry months).
Slightly too much yearly variation in temperature for Oceanic/ Maritime.
Not a bad climate, nonetheless.
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Old 08-28-2012, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Paris
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Too much yearly variation for an oceanic climate? It has about the same seasonality as Paris, which is considered firmly oceanic.
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Old 08-28-2012, 05:52 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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So i would say Oceanic with a dry summer .


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Old 08-28-2012, 11:33 AM
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I voted cool summer Mediterranean because of July's 16 mm, but looking at random places around it on streetwiew it does not have the vegetation I usually associate with Mediterranean climates. But then again I've only been to places with Csa climates, not Csb.
Portland's climate felt to me much more like a temperate climate than a Mediterranean one. Thick forests, garden plants looked rather similar to ones you might in other temperate or oceanic climates rather than Mediterranean ones. The summer dryness does affect the type of trees, and many of the grasses turn brown. For about 2 months it barely rains at all in Portland, very noticeable for someone coming from the east coast.

The wetter Csb climates of California look different vegetation-wise than Portland. The wetter districts of California with similar annual precipitation totals to Portland (35-40 inches) have a more "Mediterranean" looking vegetation. For example here looks not too different from the Pacific Northwest:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Mill+...88.03,,0,-1.48

but in general the vegetation is sparser and the forest more open:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Mill+...101.69,,0,2.01

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=joy+r...03.03,,0,-0.54

many parts turn to grassland. You won't get that in the areas around Portland.
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Old 08-28-2012, 01:56 PM
 
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If you ever visited spain you'd know that it is nothing like a mediterranean climate.
Most of Spain is borderline semi-arid with Mediterranean influences. Opposite case with Portland, borderline temperate oceanic with Mediterranean influences. Much of Spain is like the Central Valley of California, mild, wet winters and scorching hot, dry summers. I voted Mediterranean for lack of a better choice. I don't think Portland is very oceanic, especially with those summer temps
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