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Old 06-26-2014, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Coastal L.A.
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In the tropics (Hawaii and Panama, where I grew up) I can feel the hot, tropical sun on a grey, cloudy day. Here in coastal Los Angeles, it depends on the time of year; now when the sun is at 80 degrees in the sky I can feel the hot summer sun on a gloomy day and it's pretty humid, during winter when the sun is at 32 degrees, not so much.
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:15 AM
 
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I feel MUCH hotter with a ridiculous 30 °C (86 °F) with sunny weather than with a hot 40 °C (104 °F) with cloudy weather! The sun really makes the heat worse, much worse because unlike the hot air that circulates around you and that agitates you body's molecules, the sunshine heats you directly and strongly and you rapidly feel the heat, while this isn't the case with the air (through convection heat transfer).
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Old 06-26-2014, 12:17 PM
 
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In the tropics (Hawaii and Panama, where I grew up) I can feel the hot, tropical sun on a grey, cloudy day. Here in coastal Los Angeles, it depends on the time of year; now when the sun is at 80 degrees in the sky I can feel the hot summer sun on a gloomy day and it's pretty humid, during winter when the sun is at 32 degrees, not so much.
For example, In the southern Algeria (Sahara desert), the summer climate is extremely hot and extremely sunny with nearly no cloudy day at all! Over there, you can really feel the blazing desert sun beating down on you through clear sky at a very high angle (the solar angle is usually around 82 ° and 86 ° over there at summertime, very close to the maximum angle which is 90 °), much higher than under our latitudes. Not only, the desert sun cooks you but the heat itself (air temperature) is extreme, more than 113 °F (45 °C) in the shade during summer! With those such extreme conditions, the sun can be deadly if you stay too long in the direct sunlight without cooling yourself!
scorching heat + blazing sun = furnace-like and oven-like conditions

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Old 06-26-2014, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Golden, CO
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Since I've moved here in Colorado, I don't feel the heat as much on a cloudy day as I did back in Texas. Today it was hot in the sun on a 93ºF day, but when the clouds came in, it cooled us down to about 84. But even WITHOUT the cloud cover, in the shade it feels nice. Rarely does the wind feel "oven" hot in Colorado. Maybe Sunday might feel like that with a projected high of 96ºF.
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Old 06-26-2014, 09:42 PM
 
Location: HERE
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Cloudy and hot day is an oxymoron where I live but I did feel the humid heat on cloudy days when visiting Hawaii and Florida including "sensing" the presence of the sun that I couldn't see.
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Old 06-27-2014, 12:57 AM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Cloudy and hot day is an oxymoron where I live but I did feel the humid heat on cloudy days when visiting Hawaii and Florida including "sensing" the presence of the sun that I couldn't see.
When it's very hot and cloudy here (37C+ or 100F+) it's always dry heat. Temperature is measured in the shade and by the air there, so it's still gonna be that hot (I don't quite understand this thread). Except, in the sun, the heat is endlessly higher (might reach 70C or 150F)....
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Old 06-27-2014, 07:10 AM
 
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When it's very hot and cloudy here (37C+ or 100F+) it's always dry heat. Temperature is measured in the shade and by the air there, so it's still gonna be that hot (I don't quite understand this thread). Except, in the sun, the heat is endlessly higher (might reach 70C or 150F)....
This thread is about the heat sensation when it's cloudy or in the shade (when you're not exposed to the direct sunlight). I really feel the cold when it's about 0 °C (32 °F) but I don't feel the heat when it's about 40 °C (104 °F) by the same way I feel the cold. The cold air rapidly refreshes me while the hot air takes too long time to warm my body a little bit if there's no sunlight to help to agitate my body's molecules! A heat index based on the "official" temperature of the air taken in the shade along with the solar radiation would be a good creation because a sunny heat isn't the same thing as a cloudy heat.
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Old 06-27-2014, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Lexington, KY
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Can I share the opposite experience? One afternoon this January in Florida it was about 63F, I sat outside in the sun against a wall and the house was totally blocking the wind. It was like my skin was glowing and it felt warmer than inside which above 70. As soon as I left the patio and got in the wind again then it was chilly. Really neat effect.
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Old 06-27-2014, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Buxton UK
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I don't get the people who say they can't feel any heat when it's cloudy.

I remember being in Rome in 2007 and one day it was cloudy at 30°C - it would have felt scorching in the sun but in the shade, the air was very stuffy and felt hot, as you would expect at that temperature. It's 20°C inside my room now, imagining if it was 30, it would feel very hot indeed.
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Old 06-27-2014, 09:20 AM
 
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I don't get the people who say they can't feel any heat when it's cloudy.

I remember being in Rome in 2007 and one day it was cloudy at 30°C - it would have felt scorching in the sun but in the shade, the air was very stuffy and felt hot, as you would expect at that temperature. It's 20°C inside my room now, imagining if it was 30, it would feel very hot indeed.
When it's cloudy, I don't really feel the heat even if it's extreme! But I have to say that the extreme heat is normally accompanied with sunny weather, because I've rarely felt temperature such as 104 °F (40 °C) without sunshine! On a "hot", cloudy day, I can only feel the heat when I'm moving around or doing some active sport and, even with that I don't really feel the hot air as I would feel the cold air if it was chilly!
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