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Lol exactly.. that's like saying I could grow a coconut palm here (except that I keep it indoors under a heater and artificial UV light for 11 months of the year)
Oh,yeah, I forgot to mention artificial light and heating he used. He's Borat, that's what you wanted to say?
If you're smart then explain why lower and higher limits in Koppen-Geiger classification for average t. are -3(ok,let 0C be) and 22C respectively? Hmm? The difference is more than 20C, and you know this for sure.
Oh,yeah, I forgot to mention artificial light and heating he used. He's Borat, that's what you wanted to say?
If you're smart then explain why lower and higher limits in Koppen-Geiger classification for average t. are -3(ok,let 0C be) and 22C respectively? Hmm? The difference is more than 20C, and you know this for sure.
Because Koppen is an idiot. All classifications have flaws and this is obviously one..
This place is clearly continental.. no question at all.
Well, then create your own standards and popularize it if you know climate classification better than Koppen did.What's the problem?
The problem is that Taraz has freezing winters.. average low -8C in January.. hot summers.. do you think that is sub tropical? By this definition is Chicago then almost subtropical as well?
The problem is that Taraz has freezing winters.. average low -8C in January.. hot summers.. do you think that is sub tropical? By this definition is Chicago then almost subtropical as well?
It seems to me that you hang up with the term ''subtropical''. Nature doesn't know this term after all.
I'd prefer term warm temperate if it makes you comfortable. Subtropical is a misnomer....
It seems to me that you hang up with the term ''subtropical''. Nature doesn't know this term after all.
I'd prefer term warm temperate if it makes you comfortable. Subtropical is a misnomer....
I agree it's in the name, as all climates in the group do share core characteristics (even if the range is rather extreme) but don't think warm temperate is appropriate either, as it won't allow a consistent understanding of ecology due to climate.
I agree it's in the name, as the climates in the group do share core characteristics (even if the range is rather extreme) but don't think warm temperate is appropriate either, as it won't allow a consistent understanding of ecology due to climate.
Well, I am glad that we have some agreements. I mentioned about rainbow colours before. It's the same story here. e.g. Where does exactly 'real' green colour starts and finish, where it starts to overlap with red(in orange?) It's rhetorical question,don't answer.
Here's a picture of pomegranate grown in Taraz:
There is one russian guy who has common fig tree in his garden in Taraz.
Well, I am glad that we have some agreements. I mentioned about rainbow colours before. It's the same story here. e.g. Where does exactly 'real' green colour starts and finish, where it starts to overlap with red(in orange?) It's rhetorical question,don't answer.
Here's a picture of pomegranate grown in Taraz:
There is one russian guy who has common fig tree in his garden in Taraz.
Pomegranates need zone 7 and I suspect that Taraz is zone 5 according to this map and so unless you had protection for the tree, it would most likely die.
Pomegranates need zone 7 and I suspect that Taraz is zone 5 according to this map and so unless you had protection for the tree, it would most likely die.
Well, I do NOT think that climate borders are discrete in nature(e.g. -2.8C
subtropical, -3.1C continental), instead they're like colours in rainbow that
has smooth transition from one colour to another.
I think every city in the world has actually it´s uniqueness and it is complicated or even impossible to hunt out cities A and B which are 100% identical: in monthly mean temperature wise, in monthly mean humidity wise, in monthly mean precipitation wise. Cassifications sustem are all generalistions and thus classifications are done roughly although Taraz may indeed beon the borderline.
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I know this situation. I lived myself in Dublin for 5 years and winter there is
even warmer than in Estonia.
Dublin is Cfb climate type but honestly I
didn't like that weather at all. Almost always overcast skyline most of the
time, no real hot summer like in Taraz. No distinct climate seasons.
In fact Estonia and Ireland have very different climates, in Ireland temperature´s annual amplitude is circa 30c degrees, while in Estonia it is more than 60c, thus Estonia is much more continental. I just cherry picked the least continental extremum out of Estonia to show the lenght of Taraz´s winters is not in my opinion suitable for labelling as subtropical.
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Khorramabad is a typical Csa climate no doubt. But the closest city with Csa
climate is just next door to Taraz. It is Shymkent.
If you go even south by 100km there's another big city with Csa
climate-Tashkent.
I mentioned Khorramabad because it was mentioned in that wikipedia article, I know it is not near to you and that Toshkent is much nearer to you. And yet, if you look at the climate tabl e of Tashkent and compare it to Taraz´s you can see a clear difference: there is now winter (sub zero monhly mean temperatures) there but you do have winter in Taraz. That is the difference.
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