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Old 11-21-2014, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Hints from last week at this but because of the flip flop and to keep my sanity from this active pattern I never started this thread.

Notice I didn't put precip type in the title. There might be rain. There might be snow. There might be nothing actually. LOL

Latest GFS Parallel (new GFS) shows a white Thanksgiving for some.
EURO shows it for New England.
Canadien shows rain the day before

Fun Fun.



Snow totals from the GFS which all happens in 24hrs on the 27th

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Old 11-21-2014, 10:18 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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Wow, interesting. Thanks for sharing. I'd usually be all for this, but the 27th would be a very bad day for that much snow. One day later and it'd be great...
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:25 AM
 
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Wow, interesting. Thanks for sharing. I'd usually be all for this, but the 27th would be a very bad day for that much snow. One day later and it'd be great...
Yeah, that's the other reason for the thread, I figure its a big travel holiday so the heads up would be worth it.
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Old 11-21-2014, 11:34 AM
 
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https://twitter.com/AccuRayno

Thanksgiving Cold; Eastern Snow Threat - AccuWeather.com

He highlights the area he's concerned about but watch the whole video to understand whats going on.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObmW...ature=youtu.be
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Old 11-21-2014, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Ashburn, VA
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The models will do a classic flip-flop on this... although it's interesting though that this is the first time it's really pushed this far west. All indications pointed it would stay off the coast and maybe brush eastern N.E. and Maine.

As usual... lets see how it all plays out.
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Old 11-21-2014, 01:22 PM
 
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Euro12z Data for Philly.. A little 1-2 White punch after the green liquid? lol

See the cold today? See the warmup? See the crash back down for Thanksgiving?

Basically has a wave coming from gulf along a front that affects Florida and develops into a weak storm up the coast with cold air supply to tap. Shows Philly with 0.32" with the first storm mix/snow on Wednesday...
Second one more robust... This data only goes to Friday morning.

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Old 11-21-2014, 01:25 PM
 
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Keep this in mind while cold air invades... Timing, Timing, Timing.

1 ingredient for low pressure to form is large temp difference over a small area, which we see with the Gulf Stream

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Old 11-21-2014, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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Based on your maps I might be on the border of getting snow. Do the snow maps show anything for my area?
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Old 11-22-2014, 05:02 AM
 
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Based on your maps I might be on the border of getting snow. Do the snow maps show anything for my area?
Yup, you're on the edge (lol). Each map/model update will show something different but the threat is there and the chance is there.

Take a look at the latest EURO and GFS. Canadian is WAAAAY Out to sea and not even worth showing (has nothing)

EURO on left for Thanksgiving Eve (Wed 1-7pm). Storm stronger and closer to the coast with cold air available. This produced a 6-12 inch snowstorm from DC to Maine!

GFS on right same time frame... Storm much further out over the Atlantic but no precip type issue as its all snow for the coast BUT light. 1-4".

Notice GFS a bit warmer for NC. Basically doesn't dig the trough south as mch as the Euro.



That blue rain/snow line should even be that close to the storm this time of year. Am I still talking about snow?? I feel like we lived through January already. Geesus.
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Old 11-22-2014, 05:09 AM
 
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WPC on to it. but playing it safe of course.


EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD
1220 AM EST SAT NOV 22 2014
VALID 12Z TUE NOV 25 2014 - 12Z SAT NOV 29 2014

THE EVOLUTION OF THE FLOW OVER THE EAST DEPENDS LARGELY ON THE
INTERACTION BETWEEN TWO SIGNIFICANT SHORTWAVES.

FIRST,
A WAVE EMERGING FROM THE GULF OF MEXICO OFF THE SOUTHEAST COAST.

SECOND,
THE VORTEX DRAWING THE ARCTIC AIR INTO THE NATION. BOTH OF THESE
SYSTEMS HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO PRODUCE SNOWFALL. THE ATLANTIC WAVE
HAS VASTLY MORE MOISTURE AVAILABLE,

BUT AIR COLD ENOUGH FOR SNOW
APPEARS AT THIS POINT TO LIKELY BE CONFINED TO THE NORTHWESTERN
EDGE OF ITS PRECIPITATION SHIELD. STILL, WITH THE BUSY HOLIDAY
TRAVEL TIME NEXT WEDNESDAY, ANY WINTER WEATHER IS A PLANNING
CONSIDERATION.

THE COLD VORTEX, ON THE OTHER HAND, IS
MOISTURE-STARVED, THOUGH A SWATH OF LIGHT TO MODERATE SNOW ALONG
AND NORTH OF ITS TRACK WOULD FALL INTO MUCH LOWER BOUNDARY-LAYER
TEMPERATURES--A FACTOR IN ROAD CONDITIONS.

ALSO, THE TRACK OF THE
FRIGID AIR ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES WILL NO DOUBT SET THE
LAKE-EFFECT MACHINE IN MOTION AGAIN.
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