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View Poll Results: What do you think is the cause of recent global warming?
I think It's mostly man-made. 56 31.11%
I think It's mostly natural. 66 36.67%
I'm not sure. 11 6.11%
I think it's an equal combination of man and natural influences. 47 26.11%
Voters: 180. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-10-2015, 11:18 AM
 
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Where are you getting that from? The scale tops out at 6.4°C above normal. The scale does say that 0°C anamoly is white.
According to them it is..

https://twitter.com/MichaelEMann/sta...630400/photo/1


 
Old 02-10-2015, 11:23 AM
 
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So before anyone goes defending the frauds out there.. take a look at who this guy is making that claim of +11C

"Climate Scientist, Professor, and Director of Penn State Earth System Science Center. Author of Dire Predictions & The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars"

https://twitter.com/MichaelEMann
 
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Going through his twitter feed, it appears to be from a map error:

https://twitter.com/MichaelEMann/sta...72819612987392

I'm not sure if an 11°C SST anamoly is even possible at least in an open ocean. But rather than blame on an agenda, I blame on someone who didn't think before he tweeted. The sea does look rather warm off New England, it may have increased the amount of moisture somewhat.
 
Old 02-10-2015, 11:33 AM
 
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Going through his twitter feed, it appears to be from a map error:

I'm not sure if an 11°C SST anamoly is even possible at least in an open ocean.

The sea does look rather warm off New England
Nope.. Sorry but he didn't admit it in the "twitter feed" nor acknowledged it, but yet he jumped on the fact of what its showing. Someone else is trying to point this out in that feed. Do you think he will send another tweet out to his followers acknowledging the truth? THAT is called an agenda my friend.

here's Ryan trying to point it out to him YET he tells them, no there's a "small" area of 11C and mentions +5C is still warm .

Here's another look at the anomalies... Still looks warm?

 
Old 02-10-2015, 11:38 AM
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I think he mixed up the sea surface temperature map with the sea surface temperature anamoly map. Why does this map so much more warmth [from Ryan's twitter post] than the one above?

http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/anomaly/anomwnc.gif
 
Old 02-10-2015, 11:44 AM
 
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I think he mixed up the sea surface temperature map with the sea surface temperature anamoly map.

Why does this map so much more warmth [from Ryan's twitter post] than the one above?
Because it has 4 letters involved in the link... NOAA. LOL! They are part of the scam and fearmongering. VERY easy to manipulate data and have the mass public believe it. LOL.. but..

in all seriousness, I personally don't know the answer to that but you can see with Ryans map and AccuPro it doesn't look like that. Then again.. even your link shows a small area in Atlantic of +4C. Not many +5C areas or 11C for that matter.
 
Old 02-10-2015, 02:00 PM
 
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I am not an expert to is it a man made or natural, obviously but my opinion is that it is not the first time in world's history when climate has changed. There was for instance much colder in Europe in 17th century, there were real winters (cold, snow cover) in area which is today known as Cfb climate-3 season climate -now. Adriatic see was seen as frozen, the Dutch could skate and many other such things. And also there has been some warmer periods in very distant past, Holocene eg.
I don't want to say there is no human factor at all but I still think it is predominately natural. Interestingly-there are some places where we can not actually see any temperatures increasing- some areas in Siberia, maybe Iceland.
 
Old 02-11-2015, 12:38 AM
 
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Combined effect. The avg world temp has long term "winter" and "summer" cycles. We're in the warming cycle after small ice age (i mean, warmer and cooler periods, hundreds-thousands year each), an the manmade (such as UHI) speed it up.
 
Old 02-11-2015, 05:04 AM
 
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my opinion is that it is not the first time in world's history when climate has changed.
It's not opinion. It's rock solid science that climate has changed radically. We know from studying rocks that North America was once covered in ice. Temps have also been much hotter than today. Isotope analysis of ice cores drilled out from Iceland and Antarctica shows radical ups and downs going back over 420,000 years.
 
Old 02-11-2015, 09:28 PM
 
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The fraud teaches about climate and makes comments like that without admitting he's wrong?

My rant and making you guys aware of these comments are simply to state just do your research before you believe any comments you see especially from these alarmists. Mets are starting to get all over that guy now.

I wonder if that guy ever mentions the other side of the coin. ( another red agenda flag )

https://twitter.com/RyanBretonWX/sta...17053810958337

https://twitter.com/nynjpaweather/st...24270163619840

https://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi/s...17210908610562

https://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi/s...14765390311425

https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/...g-new-heights/
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