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Old 01-23-2016, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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Sometimes a climate doesn't follow the conventional seasons.
NH
winter: Dec-Feb 3
spring: Mar-May 3
summer: Jun-Aug 3
fall: Sep-Nov 3
SH
winter: Jun-Aug 3
spring: Sep-Nov 3
summer: Dec-Feb 3
fall: Mar-May 3

For Example In seattle the the three warmest months are Jul-Sep and the three coldest are Dec-Feb and so the seasons look something like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle#Climate
winter: Dec-Feb 3
spring: Mar-Jun 4
summer: Jul-Sep 3
fall: Oct-Nov 2

Monterey, CA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monter...fornia#Climate
winter: Dec-Feb 3
spring: Mar-Jul 5
summer: Aug-Oct 3
fall: Nov 1

I know I'm not using the term season correctly because it's based off of the sun. So I guess it would be more accurate to say that the hottest season in Monterey is fall, rather than summer, but either way it doesn't follow a normal pattern.
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Old 01-23-2016, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Munich, Germany
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It's called Seasonal Lag, and it happens both on the west coast of North America and Europa/Africa.
I think the cool and only slowly warming Ocean plays a big role.
Monterey Sea Temperature January Average, United States Water Temperatures
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Old 01-23-2016, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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It's called Seasonal Lag, and it happens both on the west coast of North America and Europa/Africa.
I think the cool and only slowly warming Ocean plays a big role.
Monterey Sea Temperature January Average, United States Water Temperatures
So what place do you think has the strongest seasonal lag?
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Old 01-23-2016, 07:40 PM
 
Location: In transition
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So what place do you think has the strongest seasonal lag?
San Francisco has to be among the highest anywhere....
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Old 01-23-2016, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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So what place do you think has the strongest seasonal lag?
This place in Alaska has the most winter seasonal lag I've seen. Coldest month is February and March is colder than January, and April is colder than December!



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambell,_Alaska#Climate
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Old 01-23-2016, 09:29 PM
 
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^^ Because of no sunrise / solar noon angle too low till late winter/early spring
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Old 01-23-2016, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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^^ Because of no sunrise / solar noon angle too low till late winter/early spring

I think it has more to do with being surrounded by ice-bound seas in spring rather than the sun angle being too low. This would make more sense if the latitude was say, 80 N instead of 63 N.
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Old 01-23-2016, 10:11 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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I think it has more to do with being surrounded by ice-bound seas in spring rather than the sun angle being too low. This would make more sense if the latitude was say, 80 N instead of 63 N.
Yea, Fairbanks doesn't have much of a lag:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairbanks,_Alaska#Climate

I wonder when the sea ice leave there?

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Old 01-23-2016, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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Yea, Fairbanks doesn't have much of a lag:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairbanks,_Alaska#Climate

I wonder when the sea ice leaves there?
I would guess sometime between mid June and early July? May still looks cold enough to have sea ice.
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Old 01-24-2016, 12:53 AM
 
Location: Finland
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I think it has more to do with being surrounded by ice-bound seas in spring rather than the sun angle being too low. This would make more sense if the latitude was say, 80 N instead of 63 N.
Indeed. Kuopio in Northern Central Finland looks like a "normal" climate:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuopio#Climate
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