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Old 03-21-2016, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Seattle doesn't really fit in any of your categories, it's most similar to oceanic but its annual high doesn't make the cut, though it's low does, and it's warm season isn't long enough.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle

However neighboring Tacoma is clearly oceanic, even though in reality they have virtually the same exact weather/climate.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma,_Washington

And then Everett doesn't even fit oceanic, which again has very similar climate.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everett,_Washington
I would say Seattle and Vancouver/Victoria are towards the poleward limit of Oceanic in my system, and north of Vancouver Island (i.e. Prince Rupert, Juneau) starts to become Subarctic
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Old 03-21-2016, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Shrewsbury UK
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The climate here doesn't fit in either. The average annual high is below 16, less than 180 days average 16C+ highs, average low between -2 and 7, so it's continental??? But we don't get anywhere near 90 days below 0. If you average every day for the last 30 years, I think maybe 20 dates per year might have an average low below 0C, but they would be scattered between December and March rather than forming a continuous block.

By focusing on annual highs, it doesn't seem to accommodate climates that spend most of the year in the 7-16C range.
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Old 03-21-2016, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I want to make one edit to my system. For continental, daily normal low should be below 0 for 90-210 days, and for subpolar/subalpine, daily low should be below 0 for 211 days+
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Old 03-21-2016, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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The climate here doesn't fit in either. The average annual high is below 16, less than 180 days average 16C+ highs, average low between -2 and 7, so it's continental??? But we don't get anywhere near 90 days below 0. If you average every day for the last 30 years, I think maybe 20 dates per year might have an average low below 0C, but they would be scattered between December and March rather than forming a continuous block.

By focusing on annual highs, it doesn't seem to accommodate climates that spend most of the year in the 7-16C range.
After looking at the data on your climate, I would have to say it is transitional between oceanic and continental, though heavily leaning towards oceanic thanks to your daily lows, but it's not classic oceanic like London or Seattle either
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Old 03-21-2016, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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The coldest town in my area has about 95 nights a year below freezing, but still only gets 11C annual temperature range.

Isn't an 11C range, just a bit too low for a Continental climate?
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Old 03-21-2016, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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I would say Seattle and Vancouver/Victoria are towards the poleward limit of Oceanic in my system, and north of Vancouver Island (i.e. Prince Rupert, Juneau) starts to become Subarctic
But what about Everett, it clearly doesn't fit your definition of oceanic. (Everett is just a 30 min drive north of Seattle)
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Old 03-21-2016, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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But what about Everett, it clearly doesn't fit your definition of oceanic. (Everett is just a 30 min drive north of Seattle)
I looked at Everett, and I would say Oceanic, especially since I consider both Seattle and Vancouver, BC to be Oceanic
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Old 03-21-2016, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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For people complaining that their Oceanic climates are too cold to qualify using my system, low temps trump high temps in the Oceanic/Continental debate
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Old 03-28-2016, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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One further tweak, annual snowfall must average under 70cm for climate to be subtropical or oceanic
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Old 03-28-2016, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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One further tweak, annual snowfall must average under 70cm for climate to be subtropical or oceanic
What's the logic in that? Plenty of places around here that are well and truly Oceanic by you system, and now all of a sudden, they're Continental because they get the odd heavy snowfall?

Likewise there are places around here that are colder, but get less snow -doesn't make much sense.
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