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View Poll Results: Is Climate A Factor
Yes: Climate Is A Factor 8 80.00%
No: The Cause Is Due To Some Other Factor 2 20.00%
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Old 09-14-2016, 07:10 PM
 
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Look at this map for the sabal palmetto palm, native to the SE US:


Notice how the range goes quite up the Atlantic Coast, yet doesn't extend far along the Gulf Coast; it just, abruptly, terminates at the FL Panhandle, for seemingly no reason whatsoever.

Could this be a matter of climate, wherein the Gulf Coast sees colder temps than the Atlantic? Or is climate not a problem, with the blame, instead, going to some other factor (soil, distribution center distance, etc)?
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Old 09-14-2016, 07:15 PM
 
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Clearly due to soil. The Gulf Coast is slightly warmer and wetter, and sabal palms that have been introduced there thrive.
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Old 09-14-2016, 07:24 PM
 
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Considering that Savannah is quite a bit more prone to extreme cold in winter than Pensacola is, I'm going to guess it has something to do with soil instead.
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Old 09-14-2016, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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Why isn't it growing on Cape Hatteras anymore I wonder, that place is a zone 9a climate.
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Old 09-14-2016, 08:05 PM
 
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Why isn't it growing on Cape Hatteras anymore I wonder, that place is a zone 9a climate.
They do . Sabal maximum range goes much farther inland and all over many states as well but maybe it was an original map of native range. The Sabal is a beast, can handle hurricanes, tropical storms, and high winds, fire, cold, I love strong trees like this, one of my favorites. It can handle various soils as well.

There is nothing in the world like the sound of wind through a sabal palm especially on a gorgeous beach at night. The sound of the ocean tide, moonlight and stars, warm sand and wind through a sabal palm. I love the whole sabal genus but the sabal palmetto is just amazing

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Old 09-14-2016, 08:24 PM
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They do . Sabal maximum range goes much farther inland and all over many states as well but maybe it was an original map of native range. The Sabal is a beast, can handle hurricanes, tropical storms, and high winds, fire, cold, I love strong trees like this, one of my favorites. It can handle various soils as well.

There is nothing in the world like the sound of wind through a sabal palm especially on a gorgeous beach at night. The sound of the ocean tide, moonlight and stars, warm sand and wind through a sabal palm. I love the whole sabal genus but the sabal palmetto is just amazing
Yes, it's native range is into NC along/near the coast.
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Old 09-14-2016, 08:31 PM
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Considering that Savannah is quite a bit more prone to extreme cold in winter than Pensacola is, I'm going to guess it has something to do with soil instead.
Quite a bit might be an exaggeration ...january record cold temp for
Savannah is 3F.....Pensacola it is 5F
Savannah Beach probably about matches Pensacola.

Ultimately climate/temps are a significant factor limiting the range of Sabal Palmetto
northward but not westward, that must be something else, certainly not temps.
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Old 09-14-2016, 08:40 PM
 
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Climate is always a factor. What you should be wondering instead is which other factors affect the range of the palm.
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Old 09-14-2016, 09:21 PM
 
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Climate is always a factor. What you should be wondering instead is which other factors affect the range of the palm.
What climactic differences would exist between the far SE US, and the Gulf Coast to the west?
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Old 09-14-2016, 09:27 PM
 
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This is from Wikimedia commons about maximum range of Sabal palmetto. Understanding how its not tender and how very strong the sabal palm is , seems much more accurate for a range, maybe not non-native range but it certainly is a powerful palm.

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