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Old 06-07-2016, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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I find that the climate in NC changes between the Piedmont and Coastal Plain, in my system the subtropical parts of NC are south of US 64 from Kill Devil Hills to Rocky Mount, then in a diagonal line between Rocky Mount and Rock Hill, SC
I agree, that's mainly due to elevation changes. Again though temperatures are the major change. Although rainfall is more spread out further you go from the coast.
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Old 06-07-2016, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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Wasn't January 2016 right after the warmest December on record though? Do you have any pics from after a December that was closer to average?



I didn't think the grasses there and in North GA would be different at all. I really didn't see much, if any, green grass there in winter.
This one was taken March 1, 2015, after the coldest second half of February on record. That December was slightly warmer than average, but January and February were both cooler than average.
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Old 06-07-2016, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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This one was taken March 1, 2015, after the coldest second half of February on record. That December was slightly warmer than average, but January and February were both cooler than average.
Awesome pic! Love the snow. The grass is kinda green there but there's a noticeable brown tinge. Hardly the "mostly green" that muslim12 was talking about.
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Old 06-07-2016, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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This one was taken March 1, 2015, after the coldest second half of February on record. That December was slightly warmer than average, but January and February were both cooler than average.
That is pretty exceptional too. Most years signs of spring emerge a lot earlier during february. February first is when I get into a more springtime attitude by March 1 expect spring to be in fullswing.
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Old 06-07-2016, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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Awesome pic! Love the snow. The grass is kinda green there but there's a noticeable brown tinge. Hardly the "mostly green" that muslim12 was talking about.
One picture. Keep in mind .... this is after a record breaking cold period.
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Old 06-07-2016, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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One picture. Keep in mind .... this is after a record breaking cold period.
And the January 2016 picture was after a record warm December......so I imagine the grass in an average winter looks somewhere between the two pics. Plus January and February 2015 were closer to average than December 2015.
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Old 06-07-2016, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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And the January 2016 picture was after a record warm December......so I imagine the grass in an average winter looks somewhere between the two pics. Plus January and February 2015 were closer to average than December 2015.
Why do we talk about landscaped non native grass? I'm gonna look into our native grasses. The grass I see in the woods in winter is this dullish dormant green. Not brown but not super green either.
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Old 06-07-2016, 08:27 PM
 
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I am very impressed by certain parts of your system firebird , but I think the defining aspect is the natural world and gardening and soil and water temps. The research triangle area is still an amazing area for gardening and very active animal life and high soil temps during winter.

I dont think keeping suburban lawns green is that important in my opinion, raleigh has easily 8a microclimates, it should be very easy to keep a suburban lawn green in a mild winter without much snow or ice or frozen soil but I am more interested in the gardening, ,vegetation, soil temps , and lots of wildlife that migrates south. That area is overrun with canadian geese and birds and I dont think soil temps ever get very low

I am really impressed with the effort you put in it. It needs a ton of work for foreign nations though, but great job

I would love to see your system color coded like this


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Old 06-07-2016, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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Raleigh is a solid zone 8a. What time period does the usda use for there hardiness zones? Because our minimum temp if we use the whole record is 11, still a solid 8a. I assume soil Temps follow mean temps. So still in the 40s. Ground not frozen.
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Old 06-07-2016, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I am very impressed by certain parts of your system firebird , but I think the defining aspect is the natural world and gardening and soil and water temps. The research triangle area is still an amazing area for gardening and very active animal life and high soil temps during winter.

I dont think keeping suburban lawns green is that important in my opinion, raleigh has easily 8a microclimates, it should be very easy to keep a suburban lawn green in a mild winter without much snow or ice or frozen soil but I am more interested in the gardening, ,vegetation, soil temps , and lots of wildlife that migrates south. That area is overrun with canadian geese and birds and I dont think soil temps ever get very low

I am really impressed with the effort you put in it. It needs a ton of work for foreign nations though, but great job

I would love to see your system color coded like this

Interestingly enough, with a couple exceptions, my B/C border lines up with the poleward/altiudinal limit of zone 8 on that map for the US, though in OR&WA, I would say zone 9 is the limit for B/C
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