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Death Valley topped out at 126 F (52 c) yesterday, which is 8 degrees below its infamous 134 F (56.6 c) record, which is currently deemed to be highest temp recorded in the world.
But, many other locales in the same region hit or neared all-time record high temperatures yesterday:
Palm Springs, 122 F, one degree short of all time record high
Las Vegas 115 F, two degrees short of all time record high
Needles 125 F, tied a the all time record high
I don't know enough about how the climate/topography/weather systems in the area work to really come up with an informed opinion on this. But, at first glance, it would seems odd that on a day when areas around Death Valley were touching all time highs, Death Valley was still off by 8 degrees.
Does this fact add to the doubt people might have about the 134 F mark?
Then, again, I noticed that nearby Baker was also well off its all time record high on Monday, so maybe that says something too.
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Death Valley topped out at 126 F (52 c) yesterday, which is 8 degrees below its infamous 134 F (56.6 c) record, which is currently deemed to be highest temp recorded in the world.
But, many other locales in the same region hit or neared all-time record high temperatures yesterday:
Palm Springs, 122 F, one degree short of all time record high
Las Vegas 115 F, two degrees short of all time record high
Needles 125 F, tied a the all time record high
I don't know enough about how the climate/topography/weather systems in the area work to really come up with an informed opinion on this. But, at first glance, it would seems odd that on a day when areas around Death Valley were touching all time highs, Death Valley was still off by 8 degrees.
Does this fact add to the doubt people might have about the 134 F mark?
Then, again, I noticed that nearby Baker was also well off its all time record high on Monday, so maybe that says something too.
We know for a fact that Death Valley has hit 129, as it did in 2013. And Death Valley is usually 4 degrees warmer than Needles during the summer months, infer from that what you will
Death Valley topped out at 126 F (52 c) yesterday, which is 8 degrees below its infamous 134 F (56.6 c) record, which is currently deemed to be highest temp recorded in the world.
But, many other locales in the same region hit or neared all-time record high temperatures yesterday:
Palm Springs, 122 F, one degree short of all time record high
Las Vegas 115 F, two degrees short of all time record high
Needles 125 F, tied a the all time record high
I don't know enough about how the climate/topography/weather systems in the area work to really come up with an informed opinion on this. But, at first glance, it would seems odd that on a day when areas around Death Valley were touching all time highs, Death Valley was still off by 8 degrees.
Does this fact add to the doubt people might have about the 134 F mark?
Then, again, I noticed that nearby Baker was also well off its all time record high on Monday, so maybe that says something too.
I wouldn't put too much thought into whether or not the 134º reading is valid. In any given city at any given time, temperatures can fluctuate wildly. I don't know why one wouldn't assume the same could be said for the entire SW region.. So many variables affect local weather conditions it's not even worth pondering over. My guess is that the all time highs for Phoenix, Yuma, Blythe, Needles, Palm Springs, Death Valley, Las Vegas, etc. did not fall on the same day in history, so why would we assume they'd all approach or exceed them yesterday?
There's no doubt yesterday was one of the hottest days in a long time and most places established new daily record highs, but many all-time records still stand. Interestingly, it seems June is the month when many major cities in the region recorded their highest temps on record; I'm guessing it's because June precedes the monsoon which normally arrives in July.
The next few weeks are supposed to remain extremely hot across the SW with many cities expecting highs above 110º for the foreseeable future, so it'll be interesting to see if we get another major heat burst that will challenge all-time records again.
Even the record high of 56.7 °C (134.1 °F), recorded on 10 July 1913 in El Azizia is probably unreliable. I mean, we're talking 1913 in the Sahara. If that was an accurate measure, then Cloncurry's reading of 53.1 °C (127.5 °F) must also be an accurate one.
Even the record high of 56.7 °C (134.1 °F), recorded on 10 July 1913 in El Azizia is probably unreliable. I mean, we're talking about 1913 in an African desert. If that was an accurate measure, then Cloncurry AUS must have also reached as high as 53.1 °C (127.5 °F).
I thought the Libyan one had been officially discounted?
We've got an old record over here that's dubious at best: 35.6C/96F in Bawtry in South Yorkshire in 1906, still the all-time record for September anywhere in the country. For that to be true we would have to believe that somewhere in Yorkshire was hotter than anywhere in the south under a heatwave setup (which almost never happens) and that it got hotter in September than anywhere else in the north of England has ever managed before or since even in the hottest heatwaves in the window for maximum heat in July/August.
So what's the warmest temperature ever recorded that isn't disputed?
So what's the warmest temperature ever recorded that isn't disputed?
Death Valley. 129°F. It's reached 129°F three times in the last 10 years, but the current station has never recorded more. This post is old, did any in Asia tie in recent heat waves?
Nearby stations were nowhere near 134. Not even close, 15-20F lower. I used to think it was a reliable record, but not so much anymore.
I've even heard that the 128 in Lake Havasu City is now considered dubious, considering Phoenix's record is 122, and Needles' record (which they tied Monday) is 125, I would agree with the 128 in LHC being incorrect, furthermore, I think the 129 that Death Valley has hit a couple times is the world record
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So many variables affect local weather conditions it's not even worth pondering over. My guess is that the all time highs for Phoenix, Yuma, Blythe, Needles, Palm Springs, Death Valley, Las Vegas, etc. did not fall on the same day in history, so why would we assume they'd all approach or exceed them yesterday?
