Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Weather
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 04-15-2017, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
22,112 posts, read 29,589,687 times
Reputation: 8819

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ariete View Post
Indeed. We don't know what Chubby Napoleon and his army is capable of. Not much I guess in a conventional way, but massive bombings of Seoul, maybe poison gas, who knows.


A full-scale war is probably not possible, as the civilian cost would be too great. And you can't really say to the North Koreans that "you brought this upon yourselves".


But neither can they be allowed to have ICBM's with nuclear warheads. Experts say that they might have at least somewhat operational ones in 5 to 10 years.
Japan and South Korea are against a preemptive strike against North Korea because they would be the ones to bear the brunt of any retaliation - although as you say, we have no idea what they are capable of in conventional terms, and we don't know if they are capable of nuking Seoul - but nobody wants to find out.

I guess we will see.

 
Old 04-15-2017, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Finland
24,128 posts, read 24,813,132 times
Reputation: 11103
Quote:
Originally Posted by dunno what to put here View Post
Japan and South Korea are against a preemptive strike against North Korea because they would be the ones to bear the brunt of any retaliation - although as you say, we have no idea what they are capable of in conventional terms, and we don't know if they are capable of nuking Seoul - but nobody wants to find out.

I guess we will see.

Exactly, but the tricky part is that in 10 years time, NK's capability to threaten Tokyo can be much bigger. It seems there's no good options.
 
Old 04-15-2017, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
22,112 posts, read 29,589,687 times
Reputation: 8819
Yeah, it's a difficult situation - but it's one that needs the cooperation of all parties involved - those parties being the US, China, South Korea and Japan. The latter two in particular are the ones most at risk and are understandably concerned about military conflict, while China doesn't want its border flooded with Korean refugees.

This problem can't be solved by acting unilaterally imo, and priority must be given to civilian welfare. A full-scale war in the region would be devastating.
 
Old 04-15-2017, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Finland
24,128 posts, read 24,813,132 times
Reputation: 11103
China is in a key position, if it stops all aid to NK, it might be game over.


But scary that all parts of the conflict seem to think that the current status quo is the best option, despite 25 million North Koreans living in a terrible society.
 
Old 04-15-2017, 06:09 PM
BMI
 
Location: Ontario
7,454 posts, read 7,275,727 times
Reputation: 6126
Quote:
Originally Posted by irlinit View Post
I'm intrigued as to what will happen.. this can't end well.

I don't want a North Korea with intercontinental nuclear warheads, but I also don't want a war..

The first few tests are almost certain to be failures, but once they have that technology then anything is possible, they're probably just a few years away from it now
Agree.

Must be stopped before they become successful with their ICBMs.

Crazy thing is NK is a very poor country, GDP estimated at only about 22 billion dollars,
mid sized US cities have a higher GDP. Every penny must be going into missiles.

US could easily flatten NK but have to be careful....China ...even Russia.
Take out his missile infrastructure and make sure to minimize civilian casualties.
 
Old 04-15-2017, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
22,112 posts, read 29,589,687 times
Reputation: 8819
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ariete View Post
China is in a key position, if it stops all aid to NK, it might be game over.


But scary that all parts of the conflict seem to think that the current status quo is the best option, despite 25 million North Koreans living in a terrible society.
Best option imo would be to remove the current regime and allow China to implement something. Let it essentially be a vassal state of Beijing. Of course, China is far from perfect when it comes to human rights, but it would be a big improvement on what exists now, and the nuclear risk would be neutralised.

But removing the regime would need cooperation between the US and China.
 
Old 04-15-2017, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Finland
24,128 posts, read 24,813,132 times
Reputation: 11103
Trump vs. Kim: A fight the US President can't win (Opinion) - CNN.com
 
Old 04-15-2017, 06:20 PM
BMI
 
Location: Ontario
7,454 posts, read 7,275,727 times
Reputation: 6126
Quote:
Originally Posted by dunno what to put here View Post
Best option imo would be to remove the current regime and allow China to implement something. Let it essentially be a vassal state of Beijing. Of course, China is far from perfect when it comes to human rights, but it would be a big improvement on what exists now, and the nuclear risk would be neutralised.

But removing the regime would need cooperation between the US and China.
For sure. Without China propping up NK they would be done already.

China is the key, either they take it over....or South Korea takes it over with
China's blessing.
 
Old 04-15-2017, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Paris
8,159 posts, read 8,733,717 times
Reputation: 3552
God knows how the NK population would react in such a scenario.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Weather
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:44 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top