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How does one day 6 years ago and another day 9 days later in a city in the middle of america and 40-50 miles and probably 45 minutes to an hour from the coast make the entire deep south "the crazy world of the us deep south in the winter" ? Houston isnt really coastal yet has an amazing amount of citrus and subtropical vegetation to grow in one of americas 4 largest cities quite a ways from the coast?
You are also quoting data from from years in times like 1982 and 1985 over 30 years ago when alot of people on this forum weren't even born?
Like I asked before, how do winter averages in some of these deep south cities differ from Australia? Even all these bigger gulf cities like New orleans, Houston ,Mobile,Tampa, what are their winter temp averages compared to Australia?
How do sea and air temps in places in Florida like Fort Lauderdale, Miami , The keys, Clearwater, Fort myers , Naples,Stuart, even places in north florida like Destin and Pensacola differ from the Australian coast in the winter?
Both Perth and Sydney have warmer water temps in winter than say Pensacola (avg Feb water temp 57F).
And yes their winter "averages" are the same for say NOLA, Mobile, Savannah, etc, but those cities also clearly have very sharp cold snaps in winter that Australia doesn't get. Cold snaps that are enough to substantially lower the growing zones vs Australia. Mobile, Pensacola, and Savannah are all borderline 8b/9a (winter lowest temp 18 to 22F) vs a0a for Perth and Sydney. Even their far inland cities and low elevation are no lower than 9b. You have to go to Orlando to get 9b in the Southeast away from the coast. And go any distance of say 20 or 30 miles inland from Charleston, Savannah, Mobile, etc and the Southeast cools dramatically on winter min temps. There is no where in the Southeast equivalent to Renmark or other inland Australia cities that never see the Arctic cold the inland Southeast does.
They said that it is going to be a La Nina. Unless that prediction has changed, the SE US will be having a guaranteed warm, dry winter.
You crack me up with the simplistic weather description using the term "guaranteed". As if there are any guarantees of weather anywhere around this part of the world in winter.
Oh, and what La Nina would you be talking about? Only a moderate to strong brings high pressure to the Southeast and even then the ridge varies in strength and arctic outbreaks happen. Right now the consensus is neutral ENSO conditions according to NOAA. So if they are correct there will be no Nina.
Which one?
They both are huge countries with huge differences....
I'd guess most people don't really move around much in either country.
They don't move where they pick the climate.
The rare, but not uncommon exception might be people moving from NE of US to Florida or to Arizona when they retire.
United States. Australia is just an ensemble of boring climates.
I have to really think about this as there's different climates within each country.
Australia is good because it has less areas with snow and freezes then the United States. But on the other hand almost all of Australia is too dry. Then again Australia also includes Hobart.
The United States has good areas like the west coast, Florida, Hawaii and California. But otherwise again the winter freezes are a problem.
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I have to really think about this as there's different climates within each country.
Australia is good because it has less areas with snow and freezes then the United States. But on the other hand almost all of Australia is too dry. Then again Australia also includes Hobart.
The United States has good areas like the west coast, Florida, Hawaii and California. But otherwise again the winter freezes are a problem.
With hesitation I chose Australia.
You are replying to a poster who despite living in Greater Miami, likes snow and freezes, so you know
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