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Old 12-23-2016, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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The Arctic is extremely mild relative to average lately. Those who focus on terminology are surely trying to deflect attention away from the real issues. Those +16C anomalies over the Arctic certainly don't care about 'agendas'.
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Old 12-23-2016, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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The Arctic is extremely mild relative to average lately. Those who focus on terminology are surely trying to deflect attention away from the real issues. Those +16C anomalies over the Arctic certainly don't care about 'agendas'.
Couldn't agree more. Doesn't change anything.

And good grief this was an CWG article not a NOAA or NWS press release. And what's "hot" is relative anyway. There are people that think 85 in the summer is hot and honestly if today's high was 85 (some 30 degrees above average for here) I'd think it was hot too. An informal article used super-hot? *yawn*
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Old 12-23-2016, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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I've no problem with super hot. Similar anomalies around NYC at this time of year would yield temperatures of around 85°F. Hardly super hot in absolute terms but still worthy of the title. Extremely mild is a watered down oxymoron that would be completely ignored. Something needs to be said to draw attention to the situation.
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Old 12-23-2016, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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They're obviously talking about relative to average, you dingbat.


Funny how you're complaining about an accurate phrase being used deceptively, meanwhile you constantly post intentionally deceptive things to make cold events seem more remarkable (the snow in Sahara, and the snow at Mecca threads you created perfect examples)


What else are they supposed to use for +50 F anomalies you wouldn't be complaining if they called 50 F below average "super cold" now would you???


Funny how far you reach for straws when something doesn't fit your agenda.
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Old 12-23-2016, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Savannah
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And that's the problem. A professional source doing that. People need to come out of their tunnels.


You think it was a mistake to use those words? Nope. Look at every story you see and find it.


Record high temp.
Super high anomalies.
Well above normal.


All true..


Super Hot?????? Those that defend that statement are becoming transparent for sure.

Science is there whether you like it or not. We are causing part of this. How much is debatable because reality is only measurable in certain quantities, of course which are ever increasingly accurate. For example, evolution is a theory. So is gravity. You can choose not to "believe" in gravity or evolution or global warming. But with so much scientific consensus the real question is... is it moral to not ACT accordingly if it is most LIKELY happening? To consign the environment to a polluted a dim future and thus future generations, is that moral? Is it what Christ would do?
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Old 12-23-2016, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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I wouldn't take this thread seriously in all honesty. This is a guy who gets mad and accuses you of having a "warm bias" anytime you merely speak of above average weather or you mention it's been happening.
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Old 12-23-2016, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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A warmer arctic can create updrafts that push the polar subsidence zone away from the North Pole where it belongs. This dumps very cold stratospheric air farther south where people live. The last decade has seen some terrific freezes in Europe, Asia and North America. That cold air needs to be dropping over the Arctic Ocean, where it can rebuild the ice pack.
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Old 12-23-2016, 12:21 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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And that's the problem. A professional source doing that. People need to come out of their tunnels.

You think it was a mistake to use those words? Nope. Look at every story you see and find it.

Record high temp.
Super high anomalies.
Well above normal.

All true..

Super Hot?????? Those that defend that statement are becoming transparent for sure.
It's obvious what "super hot" refers to in the context; only an idiot would think it means something like 50°F weather at the north pole in December, let alone actually hot weather. No, I don't see the problem, but the terminology is a silly quibble
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Old 12-23-2016, 12:22 PM
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More interesting than the wording is the summit cam is showing -60°F, wasn't the average much warmer?
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Old 12-23-2016, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Upstate SC
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Have an article. A weather buoy near the North Pole just hit melting point - ScienceAlert
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