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Old 01-10-2018, 12:19 PM
 
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The Mediterranean isn't so large as to totally cut off the cold air supply originating from the north and east.
Not only that, but the Mediterranean Sea by virtue of its relatively shallow nature can get pretty chilly in the winter, even along its southern edge. Water temperatures in the low double digits Celsius are typical at this time of year, so just a couple of degrees warmer than the Pacific waters off the Washington/Oregon coast. So, it has a somewhat limited capacity to moderate incoming cold air.
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Old 01-10-2018, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Looks like perhaps the edge of the Sahara desert was caught up in a piece of the polar vortex; snow in one of the hottest areas on earth ought to silence all of the AGW doom mongers, two snowfall events in just 2 years is beyond astonishing, I feel that it points to the fact that weather all over the world has become exceedingly erratic and unpredictable in recent years.
At the same time, it hit 117 in Sydney. Think again.
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Old 01-10-2018, 12:26 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Not only that, but the Mediterranean Sea by virtue of its relatively shallow nature can get pretty chilly in the winter, even along its southern edge. Water temperatures in the low double digits Celsius are typical at this time of year, so just a couple of degrees warmer than the Pacific waters off the Washington/Oregon coast. So, it has a somewhat limited capacity to moderate incoming cold air.
On the other hand, the oceans between Antarctica, South America, Africa and Australia almost totally shut out cold air. Occasionally, as I mentioned, Buenos Aires gets snow (July's of 1997 and 2007), as does Pretoria and Jo'burg. Australia gets mountain snows but it almost never snows to the coast, even in Tasmania.
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Old 01-10-2018, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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Not only that, but the Mediterranean Sea by virtue of its relatively shallow nature can get pretty chilly in the winter, even along its southern edge. Water temperatures in the low double digits Celsius are typical at this time of year, so just a couple of degrees warmer than the Pacific waters off the Washington/Oregon coast. So, it has a somewhat limited capacity to moderate incoming cold air.
Not quite, here the coldest it generally gets is around 15C.
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Old 01-10-2018, 12:36 PM
 
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On the other hand, the oceans between Antarctica, South America, Africa and Australia almost totally shut out cold air. Occasionally, as I mentioned, Buenos Aires gets snow (July's of 1997 and 2007), as does Pretoria and Jo'burg. Australia gets mountain snows but it almost never snows to the coast, even in Tasmania.
The funny thing is that Aussie mountains get more summer snow than the coast gets winter snow.
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Old 01-10-2018, 01:19 PM
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what day did this happen? I'd like to check it out an weather map archive
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Old 01-10-2018, 05:29 PM
 
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Cool photos and video, OP!
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Old 01-10-2018, 06:23 PM
 
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This is not news at all. And BTW it is not good to compare the desert in Cali with areas in the Sahara.
It is well known that parts of the Sahara (esp. high up) get very cold in winter at night, and snow is not THAT unusual at all.
Pick up a book. The hottest recorded temperature on earth was in Death Valley.
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Old 01-10-2018, 09:22 PM
 
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Pick up a book. The hottest recorded temperature on earth was in Death Valley.
"Recorded" is the key word. Death Valley is a rare situation, i.e. being in an advanced country, that lends itself to recordation. Most of the Sahara is empty and may well have experienced hotter temperatures.
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Old 01-10-2018, 10:21 PM
 
Location: MD
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"Recorded" is the key word. Death Valley is a rare situation, i.e. being in an advanced country, that lends itself to recordation. Most of the Sahara is empty and may well have experienced hotter temperatures.
Well that's questionable, and even if true, it's strongly doubtful that there exists any place in the Sahara with hotter summer mean temps than Death Valley. See the posts by Troms and Mhc in this thread: //www.city-data.com/forum/weath...ces-earth.html
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