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I'm telling you my house doesn't get cold enough for Central Heating to be 'blasted for 6 months of the year'!! NOTHING like it! My house is designed for the climate it is also not detached, we hardly ever have the heating on let alone for 6 months!!
I used to live in a flat on the outskirts of London neighbours above, below and either side and I NEVER needed the heating there! Besides you are comparing apples and oranges! Heating is a completely different thing, for the last 100'000 years mankind has ALWAYS needed heat, mankind has NOT needed air conditioning!
Mankind has needed heat but he has NEVER needed centeal heating. Mankind has needed to keep cool in Extremely hot conditions but has never needed air-conditioning. It isn't apples and oranges. It's apples and apples. We use BOTH central heating and air-conditioning to make the environments we live in more comfortable. Neither are essential to survive. You have never tried to sleep in 30°C at 80% humidity. You wouldn't be able to conceive what it's like therefore your opinion on this is redundant. Being from a cool-mild climate you would be able to give an opinion on when central heating could be used however but certainly not air-conditioning as you have haven't experienced living in a hot climate to know this
As for you rarely central heating. Like most Irish and Brits we lived in a home suitable for the climate but it still would get cool if we didn't use the heating. When you get winter months where temperatures rarely go into the double digits or Autumn and spring temperatures where single digits is very common then central heating is used to keep the home at a certain temperature. Not 24/7, just enough to keep the home warm. Why do you have the heating on at all? What's wrong with a bit of shivering? Didn't you claim we humans are meant to shiver? Lol
You listed Kelburn which is situated on the hills in Wellington. Look at the table below at Wellington Airport. Winter lows of 7.4°C and winter highs of 13.4°C. Where in the UK do you live that gets 1.4°C colder than this? You claim the south east but where In the South East of England gets average winter lows of over 6°C. I want to know where this climate is because it sounds too good to be true? Can anyone else chip in here, is there some maniacally warm winter city in England that almost as warm as Wellington?
It's bad you skew the data to make New Zealand seem colder but now your moving on to Australia. Next you'll be saying Sydney has a similar climate to Cornwall like you did about Galicia lol
As you can see Penrith has similar temperatures to here In Perth so A/C is most definitely needed for most.
Are yes but are you comparing with the temperatures on the Western sides of hills here or the Eastern sides? Are you using the 1960-2020 stats or the 1990-2020 stats? I could compare to the South Eastern suburb of where I live rather than the North Western one!
Not only can I tell you the maximum temperature on any given day in Sydney over the last 10 years I can tell you when it rained too if you like? Sydney did not get any Summer day over 35 deg C last Summer (Winter here), it did however rain quite a lot this year too which may have had an affect, nevertheless air con was most certainly NOT a necessity in Sydney during its last Summer thats for sure!
Are yes but are you comparing with the temperatures on the Western sides of hills here or the Eastern sides? Are you using the 1960-2020 stats or the 1990-2020 stats? I could compare to the South Eastern suburb of where I live rather than the North Western one!
Not only can I tell you the maximum temperature on any given day in Sydney over the last 10 years I can tell you when it rained too if you like? Sydney did not get any Summer day over 35 deg C last Summer (Winter here), it did however rain quite a lot this year too which may have had an affect, nevertheless air con was most certainly NOT a necessity in Sydney during its last Summer thats for sure!
I'm not sure what to think anymore with your post above lol. You just ignore any stats you don't like. Greater sydney is a huge area. The summer highs vary by about 4°C between east and west. I don't know what else I can do if you don't accept the stats showing this lol
I'd have to look at the official stats to believe this Though this hasn't happened with the UK so why expect it to happen in the next 28 years? If people remember summers 50 years ago as being among the best then it's clear that such drastic predictions won't come through to fruition. Having a climate 300km south in 30 years is still alot more realistic than having a climate 1500km south though
yeah, Barcelona seems a bit unrealistic for London 30 years from now, but maybe something like Paris or Nantes would be possible, although the fact that the UK is an island probably changes the condition a bit. But I think the summers will become warmer, not sure about the precipitation / cloud cover / etc.
yeah, Barcelona seems a bit unrealistic for London 30 years from now, but maybe something like Paris or Nantes would be possible, although the fact that the UK is an island probably changes the condition a bit. But I think the summers will become warmer, not sure about the precipitation / cloud cover / etc.
How much warmer has London got on average over 30 years?
I'm not sure what to think anymore with your post above lol. You just ignore any stats you don't like. Greater sydney is a huge area. The summer highs vary by about 4°C between east and west. I don't know what else I can do if you don't accept the stats showing this lol
It records an average of 5 days over 40°C per year. 21 days over 35°C and 70 days Over 30°C.
Climate statistics for Australian locations Climate statistics for Australian locations
So anyway Sydney recorded a temperature above 30 deg C three times in December (18th, 19th & 25th), 3 times in January (8th, 17th & 29th) and 4 times in February (1st, 9th, 10th & 17th), the hottest days were on 19th December and 1st February when the temperature hit 35 deg C. Like nearly all of the planet this is not a climate that makes air conditioning a necessity but rather a climate damaging luxury.
So anyway Sydney recorded a temperature above 30 deg C three times in December (18th, 19th & 25th), 3 times in January (8th, 17th & 29th) and 4 times in February (1st, 9th, 10th & 17th), the hottest days were on 19th December and 1st February when the temperature hit 35 deg C. Like nearly all of the planet this is not a climate that makes air conditioning a necessity but rather a climate damaging luxury.
Making up rubbish because you can't accept some climates are Much warmer than your own doesn't work. Western Sydney recorded temperatures at 30°C and over as an average high. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Sydney
You'll never know what it's like to live in such a climate so just accept it and stop putting it down and trying to convince people you live in an identical climate to Wellington. NO-ONE will ever believe you especially when you can't even say where it is
Thank you. I don't live in London, I don't live in Heathrow, I don't live in Eastbourne, I do live in the South East.
Now I'm confused - you have said previously that you enjoyed summers with the same temperature profile as Heathrow, and as Heathrow is the warmest summer maximum in the UK, it would be logical to assume you live there. Please explain.
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Where I live averages around 150 hours less sunshine a year than Wellington (though this year possibly has had more sunshine than Wellington)
Remember that Wellington has a range from 1896 hours- 2305 hours, so your climate will be sunnier than the station in the Hutt Valley, but about 400 hours cloudier than the west coast station.
Wellington sunshine for 2021 ranged from 2130 hours - 2321 hours,
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on average it is slightly warmer than Wellington in the Summer & this year has had quite a few hotter days than Wellington has EVER recorded.
Outside of London, nowhere in the SE is warmer than Wellington in summer by mean.
Wellington is a west coast climate, so does trade warmer means for warmer maximums, but the warmest temperature in the the last 5 years is still 35.0C, which is comparable to coastal towns of the SE
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is slightly colder than Wellington in the Winter, where I live, on average gets around HALF the amount of rain as Wellington and on average over less days too. With the exception of the rainfall amounts the differences are minimal!
Wellington is 4.2C warmer than the warmest SE station in winter - Copenhagen is closer to Eastbourne etc, than it is to Wellington ... do you regard Copenhagen as just slightly colder during winter?
Wellington Aero has 110 days> 1mm - perhaps you could provide the Met Office figures for your area?
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Joe spends his life trying to convince the world that New Zealand is a Tropical utopia
I just post stats from official sources,post daily stats, and post photos that I take - how is this supposed to be portraying tropical-ness?
1961-90 had an annual average high of 14.46C and minimum of 6.73C. 1991-2020 was 15.67 and 7.83, so highs increased by 1.21C and lows by 1.1C.
There are also interesting maps of mean daily maximum temp and a whole lot of other things like rainfall, by month, season or year. The changes in summer mean daily maximum temp are striking. In the 1961-90 only Greater London and a few much smaller areas elsewhere had more than 21C. The most northerly appeared to be a small patch around Peterborough.
In the 1971-2000 normals, the >21C area had expanded widely in the east of England and the small patches elsewhere had too, eg the Severn valley and West Midlands.
In 1981-2010 it had expanded into most of E and SE England. The most northerly was around Doncaster, ~100km north of Peterborough.
In 1991-2020 the expansion was into almost all of E, SE and South Central England, most of the Midlands and parts of the SW. The most northerly was around Hull, about 130 km north of Peterborough.
In a separate report the Met Office also points out that Hull was warmer in the 1991-2020 normals than London was in 1961-90. Hull is about 250 km or 155 miles north of London.
I've claimed that air conditioning has made people 'soft' and that for a vast majority of the world it is an unnecessary luxury, NZ has the same (sometimes cooler) Summer highs than England, both places are obviously Temperate Oceanic Cfb climates (which is why they share an IDENTICAL climate classification):-
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Much of the Northern Hemisphere below 40N of the does indeed need air conditioning to save lives. Especially sick and elderly. Try living south of 40N latitude especially in humid environments during the summer and you'll see why AC can be a life saver. My part of the world would need it say 20 days of the year especially since our homes are built to retain heat do to our harsh winters. I'm in Phoenix now. Do you think 5 million people would be able to live here from say May through Sept without AC? Your part of the world minus a few days a year doesn't need it.
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