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Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but this particular ranking study appears to be from 2014. And based on USA.com's own "algorithm". More recently, according to FBI data in 2021, Asheville had the 18th highest rate of violent crime of the 110 cities and towns in reporting in North Carolina. And according to APD data, violent crime increased 17.4% from 2021 to 2022. Honestly, this is a city which saw fit to defund its law enforcement in a period of rising crime. Is there a more fitting adjective than......stupid? And a more pertinent question than why some choose to discuss the issue of crime, is why some refuse to acknowledge it.
Asheville Police Chief David Zack, regarding the fact that Asheville violent crime has risen 31% in five years to a rate double the national average: "it's not just an Asheville problem, but it's important for us as a community to understand that we do have a problem". This is a perfectly reasonable assessment.
Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but this particular ranking study appears to be from 2014. And based on USA.com's own "algorithm". More recently, according to FBI data in 2021, Asheville had the 18th highest rate of violent crime of the 110 cities and towns in reporting in North Carolina. And according to APD data, violent crime increased 17.4% from 2021 to 2022. Honestly, this is a city which saw fit to defund its law enforcement in a period of rising crime. Is there a more fitting adjective than......stupid? And a more pertinent question than why some choose to discuss the issue of crime, is why some refuse to acknowledge it.
Good find, I didn't go to the ranking page until you pointed it out. The data I posted is for 2010-2014. You would presume in the digital age figures would be current.
Most online info. shows Asheville crime rising over the past 10-15 years, so defunding the police in the last 2 or 3 years might not be the problem..... although it probably hasn't helped.
I can't find it right now, but there is very narrow segment of Asheville's population and locations that accounts for the vast majority of the crime.
Good find, I didn't go to the ranking page until you pointed it out. The data I posted is for 2010-2014. You would presume in the digital age figures would be current.
Most online info. shows Asheville crime rising over the past 10-15 years, so defunding the police in the last 2 or 3 years might not be the problem..... although it probably hasn't helped.
I can't find it right now, but there is very narrow segment of Asheville's population and locations that accounts for the vast majority of the crime.
An argument that defunding law enforcement was a response TO rising crime rather than a cause OF it, even if true, serves only to reinforce with equal vigor the incompetence of local leadership? Would I be correct in assuming that they've since been returned by voters to the private sector? It doesn't take a genius to run a city, but it often takes one to run it into the ground.
An argument that defunding law enforcement was a response TO rising crime rather than a cause OF it, even if true, serves only to reinforce with equal vigor the incompetence of local leadership? Would I be correct in assuming that they've since been returned by voters to the private sector? It doesn't take a genius to run a city, but it often takes one to run it into the ground.
The city of Asheville is very, very liberal. The people who are in office are largely there because they are reflecting their constituents' views. Maybe this is changing to a point, but you aren't going to get hardcore law and order types.
Personally, I think the city of Asheville is probably too lax in regards to treatment of the drug addicted, mentally ill, etc. Many of the people who are "homeless" are so because of mental illness or substance abuse issues.
I live in northeast TN, but work in WNC and my girlfriend lives near Asheville. Overall, I'd much rather live in Asheville, with its faults, than most of northeast TN, where the pendulum has swung too far the other way with extremely aggressive police practices.
Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but this particular ranking study appears to be from 2014. And based on USA.com's own "algorithm". More recently, according to FBI data in 2021, Asheville had the 18th highest rate of violent crime of the 110 cities and towns in reporting in North Carolina. And according to APD data, violent crime increased 17.4% from 2021 to 2022. Honestly, this is a city which saw fit to defund its law enforcement in a period of rising crime. Is there a more fitting adjective than......stupid? And a more pertinent question than why some choose to discuss the issue of crime, is why some refuse to acknowledge it.
The reality is Asheville is one of the most liberal cities in the south, outside of Austin. It’s not going to change. If you live here, and don’t like it, my suggestion is to move. If you are contemplating a visit, and don’t like it, I would suggest visiting somewhere else. While not liberal (registered Independents), we are able to visit Asheville and enjoy the many things it has to offer. Crime nor the homeless issue has never been an issue for us, whatsoever.
The reality is Asheville is one of the most liberal cities in the south, outside of Austin. It’s not going to change. If you live here, and don’t like it, my suggestion is to move. If you are contemplating a visit, and don’t like it, I would suggest visiting somewhere else. While not liberal (registered Independents), we are able to visit Asheville and enjoy the many things it has to offer. Crime nor the homeless issue has never been an issue for us, whatsoever.
It's hard to understand why you've brought up the fact that Asheville is a Liberal city unless it's to point out that it's these very same failed social policies responsible for the present situation. Your honesty at least, is refreshing. It's still puzzling though, why you bother to post in this thread to chide others for discussing what they perceive to be problematic issues in Asheville. Is it possible that your own motives are "something other than crime stats"?
The city of Asheville is very, very liberal. The people who are in office are largely there because they are reflecting their constituents' views. Maybe this is changing to a point, but you aren't going to get hardcore law and order types.
Personally, I think the city of Asheville is probably too lax in regards to treatment of the drug addicted, mentally ill, etc. Many of the people who are "homeless" are so because of mental illness or substance abuse issues.
I live in northeast TN, but work in WNC and my girlfriend lives near Asheville. Overall, I'd much rather live in Asheville, with its faults, than most of northeast TN, where the pendulum has swung too far the other way with extremely aggressive police practices.
This is a fair opinion though I must ask, since you've acknowledged the pernicious effects of Asheville's approach to law enforcement, what you perceive to be the corresponding ill effects of your own area's more aggressive approach? As a native New Englander, I can assure you that our cities and highways are subject to far more stringent law enforcement than anything I've seen in North Carolina. We're Liberals, yet among the safest regions in the entire country.
It really needn't be either/or but as witnessed in many North Carolina cities, with gun violence and crime so deeply ingrained in Southern culture, civilian control of law enforcement with an overly permissive agenda is a recipe for..........gun violence and crime.
Good point! I have a feeling many of the negative comments have to do with something other than crime stats. I'll leave it at that..
Then why did all the city/county/state leaders recently meet to discuss it after local businesses demanded something to be done?
Do tell.
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