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Old 11-18-2010, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Seymour TN
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I know some Christian-based businesses here that only hire Christians. How can they get away with that? Does it matter if they are profit or non-profit? To say it PC - "the issue of religious hiring bias by faith-based charities that receive federal funds."
Thanks!
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Old 11-18-2010, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Stuck in NE GA right now
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Very good question and here is an add in my local paper ran this week:

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WE Have (15 to 20) jobs available every week for men & women: But First you must turn back to God and humble your self through prayer. The prayer room is open every Saturdays at 12noon
it goes on to give contact info.



Aside from the fact I find it very offensive I think they are getting away with it just like companies are getting away with blatant age discrimination. People are so desperate for work they won't complain. I did email the news paper pointing out that this add is discriminatory but it will go no where as usual.
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Old 11-18-2010, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Provo, Utah
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So I actually could use my Return Missionary status to get a job in Utah once I get back then?
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Old 11-18-2010, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Northern Colorado
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Actually, we (wife/I) see nothing wrong with this! If a company or place wants religious people to work for them, that actually is entirely up to them. There are certain things that places require for employment........that is their decision. A Christian book store would obviously want Christians to work for them and, during an interview, will make that clear as a stipulation for employment. The way things are going today, applications will soon be (if not already) asking questions like "do you smoke?", "do you have children?" and so and so on.
We have to stop throwing that word "discrimination" around so much! Sure, there are some things, like age, that the word can be used for. But, it seems like everytime someone finds out things a company wants or doesn't want it's "discrimination".
Some company owners look at it like this way: "It's my company and I will hire who I want to!"
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Old 11-18-2010, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York, United States
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I've never seen those.
Then again, I've never lived anywhere but NYC.
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Old 11-18-2010, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Stuck in NE GA right now
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Actually, we (wife/I) see nothing wrong with this! If a company or place wants religious people to work for them, that actually is entirely up to them. There are certain things that places require for employment........that is their decision. A Christian book store would obviously want Christians to work for them and, during an interview, will make that clear as a stipulation for employment. The way things are going today, applications will soon be (if not already) asking questions like "do you smoke?", "do you have children?" and so and so on.
We have to stop throwing that word "discrimination" around so much! Sure, there are some things, like age, that the word can be used for. But, it seems like everytime someone finds out things a company wants or doesn't want it's "discrimination".
Some company owners look at it like this way: "It's my company and I will hire who I want to!"
It's against the law! and has been since 1978

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The Civil Service Reform Act of 1978 (CSRA) contains a number of prohibitions, known as prohibited personnel practices, which are designed to promote overall fairness in federal personnel actions. 5 U.S.C. 2302. The CSRA prohibits any employee who has authority to take certain personnel actions from discriminating for or against employees or applicants for employment on the bases of race, color, national origin, religion, sex, age or disability. It also provides that certain personnel actions can not be based on attributes or conduct that do not adversely affect employee performance, such as marital status and political affiliation.
To read the complete law go here:
Federal Laws Prohibiting Job Discrimination: Questions And Answers
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Old 11-18-2010, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Northern Colorado
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I keep reading/hearing about.......it's against the law, BUT, just try and prove it!! Yes, it's a written law, but proving that it happened takes time and money of which the "money" part unemployed people don't have! Age discrimination is against the law as well, but employers do it all the time! An employer finds out your age and you don't get a call back for another interview or tells you "sorry, you're just not a good enough fit for the position", so what can be done........ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!
A lot of places don't give a damn what the law reads cause they know they won't be turned in, or if they are, the person complaining has to prove it!!

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It's against the law! and has been since 1978



To read the complete law go here:
Federal Laws Prohibiting Job Discrimination: Questions And Answers
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Old 11-18-2010, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, New York
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I live in NYC and have seen this. If you're not religious, why would you want to work for a religious organization anyway?
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Old 11-18-2010, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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I live in NYC and have seen this. If you're not religious, why would you want to work for a religious organization anyway?

Maybe, on the outside chance, they want to make money?
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Old 11-18-2010, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Up in the air
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Originally Posted by LoveBoating View Post
Actually, we (wife/I) see nothing wrong with this! If a company or place wants religious people to work for them, that actually is entirely up to them. There are certain things that places require for employment........that is their decision. A Christian book store would obviously want Christians to work for them and, during an interview, will make that clear as a stipulation for employment. The way things are going today, applications will soon be (if not already) asking questions like "do you smoke?", "do you have children?" and so and so on.
We have to stop throwing that word "discrimination" around so much! Sure, there are some things, like age, that the word can be used for. But, it seems like everytime someone finds out things a company wants or doesn't want it's "discrimination".
Some company owners look at it like this way: "It's my company and I will hire who I want to!"
What I find interesting though, is that if a company said they wouldn't hire Christians, people would freak out and yell discrimination.

Why doesn't it work both ways?
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