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true, but here at the office it feels that it is the contractor employee that it is diving up the team by doing or saying who knows what to this outside of the department manager/lover....
Then maybe it's time for you all, as a team, to head to the IT director's office for a little chat.
true, but here at the office it feels that it is the contractor employee that it is diving up the team by doing or saying who knows what to this outside of the department manager/lover....
Be careful here, this has the potential for a costly harassment lawsuit. Yes, you can fire someone for any reason. And they can file a lawsuit for any reason. Then a jury will decide and juries aren't too sympathetic to managers who fire vengefully to cover up their own shenanigans or assuage their hurt pride.
This must be a small company because large corporations have strict policies about personnel issues. If anyone has a viable claim here it's the project manager since the IT manager had NO business discussing her employment issues with a contractor who had no need to know. At my place, an engineer will be let go once in awhile and it always comes as a surprise, even if others knew they were a screwup, because the managers will not have said anything beforehand. We get an email that so n so is no longer employed with a reminder that personnel issues are confidential and please refrain from discussion.
The IT manager is mostly in the wrong here. He had no business sharing company personnel matters to a contract employee or discussing a project manager's situation with anyone but that proj mgr and the IT director.
It sounds like your IT director is a bit hesitant or intimidated by your IT manager. If the director doesn't want the manager to discuss personnel issues with his subordinates he doesn't have to listen to back talk about what the manager thinks he reserves the right to do, but can lay down the law "you WILL NOT discuss issues with others and REMAIN EMPLOYED in this company, PERIOD". If he doesn't want the manager to fire the contractor he doesn't have to beg and cajole him to wait a bit but can decree "thou shalt not fire anyone over this, move along and get back to work". Your IT director needs to grow a spine.
As an aside, sounds like the IT manager has some issues. Why does he feel he ahs the right to know the details of a complaint about himself and to investigate it? It's bad form to handle complaints against yourself. No one handling a complaint against themself is going to find themself at fault. I'll bet if the manager filed a grievance against the director to the director's boss, he would be furious if that boss told the director and let the director handle it.
If you really want to get rid of the contractor for whatever reason.....
How long is the contract? Simply allow it to expire and don't renew.
You don't need to give a reason for the non-renewal.
IMO, if the contractor is performing their work to a satisfactory manor, then it is dumb to get rid of them over this political issue. You could end up with a contractor that performs under-par and this could be very costly to the company...much more than a bruised ego by a manager (which is the current situation.)
How about firing the manager than someone was complaining about. This is the same manager that is causing a stir about the investigation, right. Seems the manager is the problem and is causing more problems by meddling over the complaint, which is likely a very accurate complaint. the contractor is taking the fall for this politically charged manager that won't let it go.
Watch this manager cause more problems over time. This has nothing to do with the contractor. The contractor is an easy target.
Seems the OP has already sided against the contractor just because of the 'leak'. get over it, these happen in all companies, all the time.
How about firing the manager than someone was complaining about. This is the same manager that is causing a stir about the investigation, right. Seems the manager is the problem and is causing more problems by meddling over the complaint, which is likely a very accurate complaint. the contractor is taking the fall for this politically charged manager that won't let it go.
Watch this manager cause more problems over time. This has nothing to do with the contractor. The contractor is an easy target.
Seems the OP has already sided against the contractor just because of the 'leak'. get over it, these happen in all companies, all the time.
I agree. My guess is the complaint is valid. If one knows they have done nothing wrong, they do not react this way. They know the facts will come out and prove them right.His reaction from wanting to fire the contractor who is a friend of the complainant to wanting to question those in his department about it to acting insolent to his own bosses smacks of someone who is trying to intimidate people and send a message "complain about me and you'll pay a price".
I get the feeling the OP is one of the parties involved but I'm not sure which one.
indeed a bit confusing, technically the IT manager found out from that contractor he supervises a different version of the complaint, which the contractor heard directly from the complainer, which he happens to be dating!
The IT director confirmed so, as the contractor went running to his lover associate to tell her that his own boss (the IT manager that had recently given him a raise and delegated more responsibilities), thus the reason the complainer manager found out and was even more upset that the IT manager had been investigating her complaint.... crappy indeed but hard to know how much guilt the contractor has in all this... perhaps he is the one piting all these managers ???
I suggest that your Manager, which ever one is in charge....Starts a new policy. Any complaint must be in writing and presented to him within 24 hours. Condescending is subjective. And, if I get this straight...fraternizing does imo take away credibility. it also, imo makes the person who is just now complaining...about a 3 month old incident...
suffer a lack of competency.
I call it a wash...Start the new policy. And follow the chain of command. You probably were tired, and it was a great effort...But, your post was very hard to follow...
And, why are you invested in the outcome?? Are you the IT in question, or the manager?
Why is this your business to begin with? Mind your own business first.
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