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Its never blatant. Thats the trick about it. Might be as subtle as employee A with kids has to run out and leave early because jr is sick-"by all means go!". Boyfriend calls me and tells me fido ate a giant chocolate Easter bunny and isnt looking so hot-"by all means get that taken care of by a vet. I'll see you at 6 istead of 9 tomorrow morning". Or, "sure you can leave as soon as you finish with project X".Just a hypothetical situation.
There are also situations where A employee is home with kids, dont email them or call after hours. However other employees without kids are fair game and are asked what was up when they dont respond to emails at night or phone calls.
Last edited by findly185; 02-13-2013 at 05:12 PM..
Well, maybe the employees without kids need to wise up. Make something up that can't be disproven or better yet, proven if the employer is that nosy. I've never had an employer email me at night or call at night. Seriously? I won't pick up. I have a life. If an employer ever asked me why I didn't answer, I would say, "I was in bed with my husband." :0 - (You want a list of what we did)? : 0
Single moms are the absolute worst. Not only are they allowed to come and go as they please even moreso than non-single parents, but they have become so far above reproach in society that they are essentially a protected class. Express your disapproval and risk being "that guy" who is against single moms.
Having kids is a choice, and it's one that shouldn't be made if you make an honest assessment of your life and foresee that time and/or money will be an issue in raising your kid. It's like people who have kids even though they can't even support themselves financially without them -- then expect others to pick up the tab, because "my children need to eat!!!"
Personal responsibility can be a B, but if we all would just suck it up and practice it, society would run a LOT smoother.
P.S. I was raised in a single-parent home starting in 6th grade, so please don't bother trying to tell me "I don't know what it's like."
Last edited by Pimpy; 02-13-2013 at 07:17 PM..
Reason: Added the P.S.
Single people have it much easier. Their schedule is more flexible and they can advance easier than someone with a family who has obligations that limit them. For example, a single person can move to another city for a promotion while a married person with kids will have limitations such as a spouse not wanting to move or not want to move children out of a school. Single people can remain at work longer because they don't have family obligations at home Single people can also partake in more company social events that married people can't do. They can attend Happy Hour, late dinners, and mixers.
Married people are discriminated against far more than single people in my opinion
I don't have kids or a wife so I never get to go to anything like that. I'm at work all day, every day, with no excuses. Don't get me wrong, I never complain about it or anything like that, and I do what work needs to be done.
I just think it's ironic that if I went to my supervisor and said, "Hey my friend's band is playing at this concert hall this afternoon, so I thought I would take off a bit early and go see it." He would be like, "What? No you're not."
Whereas if one of the moms or dads said, "Hey, my daughter has a concert recital at school this afternoon, so I'm going to duck out early to attend it." It would be just fine.
It's ironic to you because you don't have a family. Having a family is like having a second job. When you go home to your family, it's not all fun and games. It's not like you leaving work and having a beer with your friends and then crashing on your bed. There are a lot of responsibilities and duties that need to be completed with regard to families. If you have younger children, it's feeding them, changing them, bathing them and then putting them to sleep. With older kids, it's spending time with them, reviewing their homework, and teaching them. Having a family is work. Going to a recital is work..There are fun aspects to it but it's still work. Getting your kids ready, driving them to the assembly hall, carrying any of their items etc. is work. Anyone who has kids knows that. You really think we wouldn't like to have some beer and hang out with our buddies watchng a band play? You gotta be kidding me, that's so much easier. You really equate that to attending a music recital? That's why people are more understanding of those with families because if they have a family, they understand what you are going through. When you have a family, you will remember this thread and this response and recall how naive you were back then. Don't worry I was in your position at one point and felt the same way you did. For a lot of people, it's easier to remain at the job and work rather than go home and take care of the kids. If you ask most people, they will tell you it's easier to remain at work for more hours than go home and fulfill family obligations.
Last edited by azriverfan.; 02-13-2013 at 08:55 PM..
The childless agree to quit complaining about having to cover for co-worker parents.
The parents agree to keep feral offspring under control when in public. No running free in restaurants, no shrieking in movies or elsewhere, no standing on tables and counters, no property destruction, no wandering in parking lots, no kicking the back of our seats.
In general, yes. MWKs (Married With Kids) people tend to stick together and they tend to talk about their kids a lot, then they think you're weird for being X age and not having kids. I've experienced this myself and it isn't nice. I'd imagine that it'd be even worse for unmarried, childless single women. The peer pressure would make me want to jump of a bridge, but thankfully I ceased caring about conformism long ago.
I'm only 24 and I am already getting it. When are my BF and I getting married? (how about 10 years from now, or never? How about, I don't care if it ever happens and he doesn't want to ever?) When am I going to have kids? Because life is incomplete without marriage and kids . You do what makes you happy. I am childfree and very happy about it, leave it alone. You know?
This thread reminded me of the time a single, childless coworker called that she could not come in because her pet iguana needed a C-section.
That iguana might be like a child to that childless person.
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. You do what makes you happy. I am childfree and very happy about it, leave it alone. You know?
