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Old 05-25-2013, 09:03 AM
 
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Once you take that job, you are admitting to the company and to yourself that you are a doormat to be walked and trampled on.

DO NOT buy the propaganda spewed on here about "working your way up", "take a job, any job", and all the rhetoric the nobility tell the serfs to keep them working.

The only thing working for low pay says is that you are desperate. There's blood in the water.

Going on welfare, section 8, etc etc is a better option than being underpaid or under-employed.
Employer shills on this website or in the media or society at large will call you lazy, you don't want to work, etc etc. Ignore them and join the free sh*t army until you find a real job.
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Old 05-25-2013, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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That's pretty good advice.

Here's more good advice:

Never pick the wrong lottery numbers.
Never catch a cold.
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Old 05-25-2013, 08:15 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Once the welfare is maxed out and you have no income and live under the overpass in a cardboard tent, post again and tell us how you like it. Oh, I forgot, you won't have internet there.
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Old 05-25-2013, 08:39 PM
 
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I'd never work for free.

20% less than market rate? Long enough until I can find something else, but it would be better than welfare so I would do it.

However, I would be sending out resumes EVERY night after work.

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Once the welfare is maxed out and you have no income and live under the overpass in a cardboard tent, post again and tell us how you like it. Oh, I forgot, you won't have internet there.
Welfare isn't maxed out. Unemployment ends after a while, but welfare lasts forever. You hear about generations living on welfare because it never ends.

Section 8, SSDI, food stamps, etc. has no expiration date.
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Old 05-25-2013, 09:18 PM
 
Location: East Bay, San Francisco Bay Area
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I note your advice, but some would take a job (with a salary below what they were making) if it meant getting off unemployment (long term unemployment has a stigma attached to it) and "back on your feet".

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Once you take that job, you are admitting to the company and to yourself that you are a doormat to be walked and trampled on.

DO NOT buy the propaganda spewed on here about "working your way up", "take a job, any job", and all the rhetoric the nobility tell the serfs to keep them working.

The only thing working for low pay says is that you are desperate. There's blood in the water.

Going on welfare, section 8, etc etc is a better option than being underpaid or under-employed.
Employer shills on this website or in the media or society at large will call you lazy, you don't want to work, etc etc. Ignore them and join the free sh*t army until you find a real job.
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Old 05-25-2013, 09:25 PM
 
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I'd never work for free.

20% less than market rate? Long enough until I can find something else, but it would be better than welfare so I would do it.

However, I would be sending out resumes EVERY night after work.
Exactly!

I took a job paying crap, and it was part time- but I wasn't working and needed a job.

6 weeks later I found a better job, and just baseline hourly rate it was 50% more. 3 months later a positioned opened up and I got a 30% raise on baseline pay.

I'd rather be working than sitting at home doing nothing...

And even now I still look randomly in case there is something that pays more that I can do.
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Old 05-25-2013, 09:46 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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I'd never work for free.





Welfare isn't maxed out. Unemployment ends after a while, but welfare lasts forever. You hear about generations living on welfare because it never ends.

Section 8, SSDI, food stamps, etc. has no expiration date.
Few states are without time limits on welfare, since the mid 90s.


State Welfare Time-Limit Policies and Their Effects on Families | mdrc

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/08/us...anted=all&_r=0
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Old 05-25-2013, 10:38 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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Only a fool would work for 20% less than the market rate. Who does that?
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Old 05-25-2013, 11:57 PM
 
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Agreed and many states also make you work or go to school in order to keep your benefits. Some people have managed to get around this by claiming to be depressed and qualifying for SSDI benefits.
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Old 05-26-2013, 12:57 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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If market rate was $100k, I'd work for $80k until something better comes along.
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