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And I'm not willing to take that chance, let her battle it out with unemployment. I told her (my prior employer) that I am sorry, but I was advised against signing her statement, and that hopefully I won't be on unemployment long. She responded that she is fighting the claim. So now what?
She is about to have 2-3 more people claiming UI when she downsizes this month, but not my problem.
1) You left voluntarily which means you do NOT get unemployment (the only way to get it is if she FIRED you, which she did not)...
2) If she is in fact retiring, then what does it matter? Unemployment claims are partially paid by the company through unemployment insurance but if the company is closing down, the government pays for everything...
To me, 1) She is not really retiring 2) If you left to pursue other job opportunities, then you left on your own and do NOT qualify for unemployment...
The only way to qualify is if you are laid off or fired... in the end, she will win because you do NOT qualify for unemployment because she did not fire you and did not lay you off...
It is odd that she asked you to sign that letter because it is a trap even though she is in the right....
You have to go through getting UI once to realize how it works. If you've had more than one job in the year, the funds can come from more than the person who lays you off. It depends on the quarter.
Believe me, I wish the employer being screwed was the one that let me go.
I told her (my prior employer) that I am sorry, but I was advised against signing her statement, and that hopefully I won't be on unemployment long.
Did you mention that this was advice you found on a forum? Have you actually spoken to anyone in UI about signing such a letter and what it means legally?
I was at a job for 7 years, and decided to leave when I got another offer, being that I knew my prior employer was going to retire soon. The new job unfortunately only lasted 5 months, and now I am collecting unemployment. Because of the way unemployment works, my prior employer has to pay for my UI.
Now she (prior employer) has contacted me and asked me to sign a statement that I left her voluntarily so her insurance doesn't go up. I know from my former coworkers that she is closing end of month, and she will have 2 more employees on UI. She says it will not affect my claim, but that money will not come from her business, it will come from general account.
Of course you can not contact UI for advise, I have tried. I am not signing anything until I get my own verification.
Any comments?
Ask this question in the subforum entitled "Unemployment." There are some real UI experts on there. Make sure you let them know what state you are working in also.
Correct, I left job A voluntarily, and was let go from job B. Because I was only at my most recent job for 5 months, UI looks at all jobs in the past year, so job A holds some responsibility. I would think the longer I am on UI the closer it would get to job B paying, I hope so. Pretty confusing.
So even though job A is not the guilty employer, I don't feel comfortable signing her waiver.
No they don't. You said yourself you chose to leave so they have 0% responsibility. Not signing it is lying and you should be honest and sign it.
No they don't. You said yourself you chose to leave so they have 0% responsibility. Not signing it is lying and you should be honest and sign it.
Edit: If unemployment has a question, they will ask the OP. And then they simply tell the truth. They don't have to sign something from the employer.
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