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Old 11-14-2013, 04:03 PM
 
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It was a business analyst position and the only other requirements besides a 4 year degree was stuff like: strong knowledge of Microsoft Office, works well with a team, committed to excellence.

Ok, so I just graduated from college... let me run off and get that Top Secret clearance real quick!

The idea of entry level jobs is a complete joke.
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:05 PM
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It was a business analyst position and the only other requirements besides a 4 year degree was stuff like: strong knowledge of Microsoft Office, works well with a team, committed to excellence.

Ok, so I just graduated from college... let me run off and get that Top Secret clearance real quick!

The idea of entry level jobs is a complete joke.
not if you acquired a TSC while in the military first it's not.
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:07 PM
 
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What is so difficult to fathom that an entry level position would require a top secret clearance?
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:09 PM
 
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not if you acquired a TSC while in the military first it's not.
Yeah, I thought of that too but it didn't say anything about previous military experience.

The posting legit said:

Required qualifications:
active top secret clearance
bachelors degree in finance or related field

Preferred qualifications:
Knowledge of Microsoft Office
Good work ethic
Team player
Committed to excellence
Analytical thinker
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:12 PM
 
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What is so difficult to fathom that an entry level position would require a top secret clearance?
Because I attended one of the top 10 largest universities in the US and was active in many organizations and only knew one person with top secret clearance (he was 32 and worked in a lab).

To me, entry level is a type of job that requires pretty much a degree with good grades and maybe some part time job experience in college.
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:16 PM
 
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So if you could not obtain it from your top university then it should not be needed for an entry level position? You were bound to learn sooner or later college ain't everything.
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:22 PM
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Yeah, I thought of that too but it didn't say anything about previous military experience.

The posting legit said:

Required qualifications:
active top secret clearance
bachelors degree in finance or related field

Preferred qualifications:
Knowledge of Microsoft Office
Good work ethic
Team player
Committed to excellence
Analytical thinker
entry level jobs with TSC require a lot of training, so it's not that drastic to consider. you can obtain a TSC by working as a govt contractor, but then try to get an entry level job as something totally different with the fed. Fed jobs are fairly hard to obtain (i use to work as a fed), because everyone and their mother wants to work for them.

many people that have an opportunity to enter fed, even if it requires to start over as entry level, will jump on it.
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:22 PM
 
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So if you could not obtain it from your top university then it should not be needed for an entry level position? You were bound to learn sooner or later college ain't everything.
I didn't go to a top university, just one of the largest size-wise. And I said nothing about obtaining it through my college.

But, yeah, I think it's kind of crazy to call a job "entry level" when you need something like a top secret clearance for it. That makes it more specialized to me. I'm not saying the job shouldn't exist or that I deserve it more than someone else, yadda yadda. Again, just saying I think it's nuts to call it entry level.

College obviously isn't everything, duh, already learned that realllllly quickly! But if it isn't everything, why do employers want it so badly? I wish they'd just decide what matters most to them, either a 4 year degree or 4 years of full time experience.
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:35 PM
 
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Won't the employer help the employee get the clearance after they're hired? Maybe the ad is telling people that they are only interested in candidates whose background would allow them to pass and obtain government clearance.

I don't see the issue.
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:37 PM
 
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Won't the employer help the employee get the clearance after they're hired? Maybe the ad is telling people that they are only interested in candidates whose background would allow them to pass and obtain government clearance.

I don't see the issue.
It said "active" top secret clearance, I think that means you already have to have it.
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