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Old 07-22-2014, 05:53 PM
 
Location: NH
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What do you think about someone who has a security clearance who insists their phones are tapped and they are constantly being harassed for no reason? Have you known someone or experienced this? Eavesdropping, bugs, harassment, lack of privacy etc. Is this stuff real? Do they have nothing better to do to people that are harmless? Is it just paranoia?

I understand you may be hesitant to answer if you know something.
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Old 07-22-2014, 07:35 PM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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I assume you mean by the government....
citizens do this sort of crap to me and my coworkers all the time, clearance or not. (Well, not bugs and phone taps, but plenty of harassment, following around with cameras off work hours, etc)
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Old 07-22-2014, 07:37 PM
 
Location: southern california
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all the time.
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Old 07-22-2014, 08:28 PM
 
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The government has more to do than harass land spy on people with security clearances. That's probably the stupidest thing I've heard all day.
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Old 07-22-2014, 09:14 PM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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What do you think about someone who has a security clearance who insists their phones are tapped and they are constantly being harassed for no reason? .
I would think they need professional help....
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Old 07-23-2014, 12:57 AM
 
Location: Montana
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My phones and computer at work are monitored, but that's part of the gig with any federal job/contract.

I have been told by a security manager that I will be monitored intermittently for many years after employment, but I doubt I would know the monitoring occurred, as that would defeat the point of intermittent monitoring.

You friend is either a kook or a suspect IMO.
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Old 07-23-2014, 01:47 AM
 
Location: Hawaii-Puna District
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I work contract IT database security for financial institutions. Trust me on this. You would be surprised at how much we can observe while you are "working", down to recorded screen, keyboard, mouse inputs that are put into a forensic database if an issue is suspected. Plus, some of the systems automatically detect suspicious behavior and record that info and then send us, alerts about what you are doing. Never, ever, do anything on your work computer that you don't want anyone to know about, no matter how benign you think it is.
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Old 07-23-2014, 08:00 AM
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if there is some passive website or phone line monitoring, but your friend is being paranoid. There are over 4 million people with security clearances; no one has time to follow them around.
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Old 07-23-2014, 09:07 AM
 
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lol, I learned first hand at how paranoid some federal employees can be. While I was a federal government contractor, one of my duties was to assign out IT equipment. Well the acting director of my division decided that every federal employee and government contractor in the group should have webcams. The webcam used in conjuction with Microsoft Office Communicator would allow employees to have a video conference with any other agency employee across the country. It was a pretty cool set up (prior to that, if you wanted to do a video conference, you had to book a conference room).

So I go to pass the webcams out, you have no idea how many employees either outright rejected the webcam or accepted the webcam and didn't set it up. They were so concerned about "being watched". I was asked numerous times if the video from the webcam was stored on some hidden server, lol. Even with the people that did have the webcam set up, many of them either keep it unplugged unless they were using it or always had the lens pointed away from them.

It seemed to be a generational thing though. Most of the "government conspiracy theorists" and "somebody's watching me" people were in their late 40s and older. Pretty much all of the younger people were thrilled to have the webcams.
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Old 07-23-2014, 09:17 AM
 
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What do you think about someone who has a security clearance who insists their phones are tapped and they are constantly being harassed for no reason? Have you known someone or experienced this? Eavesdropping, bugs, harassment, lack of privacy etc. Is this stuff real? Do they have nothing better to do to people that are harmless? Is it just paranoia?

I understand you may be hesitant to answer if you know something.
They probably have paranoid schizophrenia. I have a security clearance and nobody cares about what I am doing.
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