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I thought about the question "do we really hate job hopping or is it more company hopping?" I personally think it is the latter. The former allows for it to include changing positions within a company. I ask because I looked for new positions within the school district I work for.
If changing positions you aren't quitting a job you are taking a promotion.
Not necessarily. At a previous job I held, many people made lateral or even downward moves within the same company in order to reduce stress, get a different schedule, be under different management, have a different set of duties, etc. Within the company nobody seemed to mind, because these people were just learning more skills that made them a better all-around asset to the company.
To address OP's question, I think a lot of times people don't quit a job because of the work itself but because of the management in charge, and oftentimes getting relief from that means leaving for a different company.
True but you are changing position which to some is the problem with job hopping.
I don't think people see it this way at all. There are a lot of employers and hiring managers who will see not moving up, especially in a junior level position, as a lack of motivation or aptitude. Moving into more senior roles within the same company is generally viewed favorably.
For what it's worth, I don't see why people frown on job hopping, as long as you're progressing. It took me several years to "get my bearings" after college, but I did finally find a good job with my current employer, which was designed to be a feeder program into more senior positions in the organization. For whatever reason, it isn't working out for me and the other folks in this role. I just got a better offer last week.
If I had taken my first permanent job out of a series of job hops in 2013 and stayed there to remediate the damage of the job hops, I might be making $15-$20/hr now, if that. Instead, I'm in the mid $60k/year area.
on another note, does it hinder your career if you stay with in the same company (change position) for too long. I am asking because I work for a large company that has many positions & often goes thru reorganization. I have had new job almost every other year but my position title is the same. But I have not been doing the same thing for last decade yet at times I feel like other company might look down up on me because I have been in same company for so long
Good point, I usually say job hopping but what I mean is company hopping lol
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