Is the programming market oversaturated? (employment, work, career, companies)
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I'm starting to think that thanks to bootcamps and all the free programming tutorials online, there is going to be a glut of programmers flooding the entry level market for the next decade. I could apply for more jobs in CA, but man there's no way I can save up to even move there with the debt I have and living by myself.
And this is where employers are going to find new employees, which hurts those who can't afford them but already went to school and self teaching themselves. Job fairs are such a joke, and I'm struggling to network with anyone in my field.
Despite my efforts I'm getting responses, even have a test challenge I'm taking right now, but I'm starting to realize that I may have to stick with my crappy job for a bit longer, or find another job and take a small paycut just to save my health or pray I get this job at the community college. I was dead set on leaving at the end of the month, but I'm seeing the possibility of being homeless in a new city or having to take another low wage job with erratic hours.
Many places won't consider these types of camps as relevant education. I think they are useful to supplement a science degree, but that's about it. I
Learning to program is a bit like learning a spoken language. You may be perfectly capable of "speaking" but you also have to know what you want to say. The difficult part is analyzing a problem and inventing a solution and then implementing the solution.
You can know how to code but if you have no clue about how to solve problems or if you do not fully understand the application from a non programming point of view then what's the point?
We hire people who understand the problem and know how to solve it. The coding skills part is a mandatory basic requirement and won't get you through the door.
There is a demand for very talented developers. Not so much the "code monkey's" who do the rank and file work which is mostly outsourced.
Tech in general is an immensely cut throat line of work.
You don't want to work for a company with such an outdated model. If the "code monkeys" just blindly implement to some (incomplete) spec from an "architect" without understanding the system then you will get horrific crap. Run from a place like that!!!
Think of people who design & write compilers for microprocessors that do not yet exist but are on the drawing boards for 1st silicon 3 years from now. Or, people who are close to the silicon for current generation processors. Think of people designing advanced security into the hardware of microprocessors.
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Looking at the jobs ads in the Sunday Seattle Times this morning, there are 12 full height columns of software development job listings. The next greatest number is restaurants/food service, with less than one column.
I wouldn't say it is over saturated, but it is a pump and dump field
Fully agree. You would be astonished at the computer illiteracy in the US - millions of people still use pen and paper to write letters instead of using email, read printed newspapers/magazines instead of using an app, buy printed books instead of eBooks, use printed maps instead of a GPS or a smartphone... So, IT is definitely not oversaturated but because IT is the expensive department in a company, it is a pump and dump field. IT is a highly interesting and rewarding field if you put in time and efforts.
Need to realize that the coders that get hired by the big firms are people who have been coding since they were a kid. The coding does not stop when they leave the office for the day. They work on hobby projects, open source, or learning new languages.
You don't decide at age 35 that you're sick of flipping burger at McDick's so you attend a coding boot camp and become someone that Google would hire.
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