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Old 11-27-2017, 01:01 PM
 
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The main reason for that however isn't necessarily that they are smarter, but that there is only a short period when they are truly free to think. In that short time between a professor demanding all their effort on his work or the dissertation and before they get married, have children, get put on committees, pulled in a hundred different directions. I've lived that cycle in my own life and seen it in others.
While I don't doubt that what you say occurs actually does occur, we're talking about "tech workers" and not professors. Indeed, I read about professors making discoveries of all kinds practically all the time -- though they're likely using teams of much younger grad students, typically!
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Old 11-27-2017, 01:03 PM
 
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With all due respect, we're not talking about "smarts" at the level of world-class chess player or Nobel-winning mathematicians here. Maybe at that point in the continuum you've done your best work by 30 but that's certainly not the case for programming. You can be burned out by being used but your brain hasn't slowed yet to the point of being worthless. A decade of experience has to outweigh a few milliseconds of reaction time.
Just explaining the tech industry's penchant for "younger"...plus, let's face it; when we were young, we generally preferred even just looking at fellow "youngins," too -- didn't we?
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Old 11-27-2017, 01:04 PM
 
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Andrew Wiles is in his 60s. He just solved Fermat's Last Theorem in 2014.
Well, yes, outliers abound, to be sure.
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Old 11-27-2017, 01:06 PM
 
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She quit. There's nothing wrong with that. Most people will eventually get bored of their careers and retire or switch positions. In school, I was surprised to meet teachers that had different careers before teaching. I had a millionaire small business owner that was bored with business and started teaching English in high school. I had an ex-cop as a history teacher. I have met IT people that switch careers from the finance side. It's normal, we get bored and we are free to switch.

We don't have to suck it up and stay in career for the next 30 years.
Problem is that in the tech industry there's a really big deal of ageism, I've read...personally I've experienced ageism in other sectors of the economy.
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Old 11-27-2017, 06:11 PM
 
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Problem is that in the tech industry there's a really big deal of ageism, I've read...personally I've experienced ageism in other sectors of the economy.
Thank goodness, I don't have to work in the tech industry to be in a tech career. There are many coding jobs outside of the tech industry. Take a look at any IT department from the Fortune 500 and the largest employers.

I am working with guys in their 50's and 60's on Hadoop development. I am in my 40's.
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Old 11-27-2017, 06:18 PM
 
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Thank goodness, I don't have to work in the tech industry to be in a tech career. There are many coding jobs outside of the tech industry. Take a look at any IT department from the Fortune 500 and the largest employers.

I am working with guys in their 50's and 60's on Hadoop development. I am in my 40's.
Yup, this^^. But you won't convince the depressives here who read too much Internets and think robots are gonna take der jerbs
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Old 11-27-2017, 06:41 PM
 
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Yup, this^^. But you won't convince the depressives here who read too much Internets and think robots are gonna take der jerbs
I guess that you are calling "depressives" automation experts and engineers who conceptualize and design automation software and hardware. They wholeheartedly agree that full automation is coming and that ALL jobs are going to be done with computers, robots, and other machines. This isn't science fiction, it is reality.
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Old 11-27-2017, 06:45 PM
 
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I guess that you are calling "depressives" automation experts and engineers who conceptualize and design automation software and hardware. They wholeheartedly agree that full automation is coming and that ALL jobs are going to be done with computers, robots, and other machines. This isn't science fiction, it is reality.
Sure buddy, sure.
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Old 11-27-2017, 06:56 PM
 
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Sure buddy, sure.
Don't take my word for it. Do some research. Automation is coming.
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Old 11-28-2017, 03:05 PM
 
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Yup, this^^. But you won't convince the depressives here who read too much Internets and think robots are gonna take der jerbs
It's ironic you post that in response to someone talking about Hadoop - a stack that is literally helping techies invent their way out of jobs.

We're very good at that in the tech industry. Automate almost everything, streamline almost everything else. Dirty little secret: We actually don't even need low level coders anymore - machine learning has progressed enough to where we can actually get Watson to code if we want. The only reason that hasn't completely obliterated the low level programmer market is because companies realize that if they kill off the bottom of the ecosystem, those people will never grow to competence levels robots can't yet replicate. As soon as machine learning can replicate those people as well, you're going to see a machete taken to the forest of tech.

It's already kind of happened in the operations/hardware space.
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