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This is why you should never be a salaried employee to begin with. Its the equivalent of putting a sign on yourself and say, "abuse me, don't pay me for hours worked"
This is the ultimate end Goal of companies. Somehow convince all the lemmings to work for free and accept it
Agreed! and you'd be shocked (maybe not) at how easily so many buy into that
The only thing I would have done differently OP is that I would not have cc’d your supervisor. Why did he need to know? We’re you trolling for a compliment from him for the way you handled the work schedule?
Lots of managers feel the way yours does, that salary workers are superior to hourly workers. That mindset comes from the earliest days of manufacturing in America and is still alive and well. Now that you know that his attitudes are “slightly behind the times”,use it to your advantage. Your team will respect you for your concern for them, so keep at it!
Make sure those workers get a little something extra something somehow, someway.
I tried....i asked the boss perhaps we can do a little something for them....like give them a day off in the comming year.....
He said 'what if the work isnt done to my liking? Why should i commit tobreward them if we dont even know the project will succeed? If its successful, ill think about a possible reward.....'
Hourly employees in IT world are going away at least as I can tell my department are network administrators we have 1 2, and 3's and a few years ago 1 and 2 network admins were hourly 3's and Sr were salary they re-wrote our job description and made 2's salary our work never changed they got around the law by coming up with a job description that didn't have anything to do with our jobs gave it to an outside attorney who gave them the green light to do it. Last month I heard our job descriptions are changing again now level 1's are going to become exempt employees. My manager is cool about working they lost lot of good employees last few years after working everyone too hard they made a new policy not allowed to work more then 12 hours in a day any employee. They always let us take comp day off if we worked extra hours they only expect us to work 8 hours a day.
IT job market is easy enough for your guys to find new jobs your manager he won't hold onto them if he keeps it up.
Hourly employees in IT world are going away at least as I can tell my department are network administrators we have 1 2, and 3's and a few years ago 1 and 2 network admins were hourly 3's and Sr were salary they re-wrote our job description and made 2's salary our work never changed they got around the law by coming up with a job description that didn't have anything to do with our jobs gave it to an outside attorney who gave them the green light to do it. Last month I heard our job descriptions are changing again now level 1's are going to become exempt employees. My manager is cool about working they lost lot of good employees last few years after working everyone too hard they made a new policy not allowed to work more then 12 hours in a day any employee. They always let us take comp day off if we worked extra hours they only expect us to work 8 hours a day.
IT job market is easy enough for your guys to find new jobs your manager he won't hold onto them if he keeps it up.
Few companies want someone sticking around in an hourly position for too long. It's up or out. And in general, companies hate hourly workers with a passion since you have to pay them OT for anything worked over 40 whereas salaried workers are doing it for free.
Few companies want someone sticking around in an hourly position for too long. It's up or out. And in general, companies hate hourly workers with a passion since you have to pay them OT for anything worked over 40 whereas salaried workers are doing it for free.
This isn't true. I've never heard this before. Salaried worker are generally paid more and overtime is figured into their salary. So the OT isn't really free if it's factored in and expected.
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