People with "bad" teeth and other physical appearance issues (job, companies)
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If I have two candidates with equally good resumes/experiences and one has meth mouth and the other has perfect teeth, sorry but I'm hiring the good teeth person. I'm not going to tell anyone why I'm hiring perfect teeth because you'd open yourself up to all sorts of nonsense but that's the world we live in.
it's an extension of the college degree requirement.
It's about having a barrier that hopefully correlates with people who were raised better.
Good teeth. No tattoos. Can spell.
Many companies are getting rid of exclusionary college degree requirements because it puts an unnecessary barrier on a position that might not require it. If an applicant can do the job and has relevant experience, a degree or being "raised better" shouldn't matter.
I wonder if Sheetz offers dental benefits to their employees.
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When I had a business for 17 years, I happened to employ one young woman (age 23) who was very attractive. If she was in the back people would ask for her, and even women would ask about her if she was not there. It definitely helps public-facing business to have attractive people, or that at least have no features that put people off. Ask the owners of Hooters, Twin Peaks or Tilted Kilt. Look at the ads for car companies on TV, and most other ads. You won't see an actor with rotten or missing teeth selling Cadillacs or a moisturizing cream. Now I will admit that for a convenience store, I wouldn't care that much.
When I had a business for 17 years, I happened to employ one young woman (age 23) who was very attractive. If she was in the back people would ask for her, and even women would ask about her if she was not there. It definitely helps public-facing business to have attractive people, or that at least have no features that put people off. Ask the owners of Hooters, Twin Peaks or Tilted Kilt. Look at the ads for car companies on TV, and most other ads. You won't see an actor with rotten or missing teeth selling Cadillacs or a moisturizing cream. Now I will admit that for a convenience store, I wouldn't care that much.
There's a slippery slope with that, though. Would Sheetz be denying a job to someone with poor personal hygiene or as someone brought up, "meth mouth," which could indicate potential issues with the job, or is it discrimination against a capable applicant whose parents couldn't afford dental care and braces when they were growing up. We've seen cases where Black people with natural or braided hair or people with tattoos get treated differently in the interviewing process. Or hiring a bimbo over a more qualified, but less attractive applicant. Ultimately, businesses can make hiring decisions with plausible deniability, but there is a reason why workplace discriminations laws exist.
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Originally Posted by fleetiebelle
There's a slippery slope with that, though. Would Sheetz be denying a job to someone with poor personal hygiene or as someone brought up, "meth mouth," which could indicate potential issues with the job, or is it discrimination against a capable applicant whose parents couldn't afford dental care and braces when they were growing up. We've seen cases where Black people with natural or braided hair or people with tattoos get treated differently in the interviewing process. Or hiring a bimbo over a more qualified, but less attractive applicant. Ultimately, businesses can make hiring decisions with plausible deniability, but there is a reason why workplace discriminations laws exist.
Yes, but EEOC discrimination law only applies to the protected classes, and even then only those with over 15 employees. Unless there is a stronger state law that store may not have 15 and therefore be exempt. Even then discrimination is very hard to prove even with a good attorney, unless the employer is dumb enough to say something in front of witnesses or ion writing. For example, I remember when a supervisor at a place I was working told a buxom woman she was not being hired because her breasts would get in the way of working in tight spaces. All of the interviews there were recorded, and he was fired.
If your teeth are holding you back, OP, get your teeth fixed.
At least the teeth in front that show,
I would not hire a person with meth mouth and it wouldn't be because of the teeth. Also very wary of a man with a diamond set into a front tooth, but my caution would not be because of the actual tooth.
What does "bad teeth" mean? Crooked teeth, buck teeth? Rotted or missing front teeth? I suspect the reaction is going to vary based upon why the teeth are "bad".
I saw where SHEETS quick stop stores now require all of its workers to have nice smiles with no bad looking teeth. What is next? Can companies do this? Will people who are overweight be subject to being fired now? What about tattoos?
Of course companies can do this. Poor hygiene is not a protected class.
Here is the actual policy from the employee handbook: "applicants with obvious missing, broken, or badly discolored teeth (unrelated to a disability) are not qualified for employment with Sheetz."
This is nothing new. Every GI coming home from WWII to get a civilian job knew that he had to get his teeth fixed first.
The OP didn't link to the story, but the reason that Sheetz is in the news about their policy is that a woman quit her job because her abusive spouse knocked her teeth out, and she felt penalized by the company because of it.
Rose said she had lost several of her teeth years earlier as a result of domestic abuse by an ex-spouse. Now, she was asking for time off to have dental work done to construct a new denture.
But Rose wasn't just getting the work done for her own sake, she said. A Sheetz company policy forbids employees from working with "obvious missing, broken, or badly discolored teeth" unrelated to a disability and gives them 90 days to fix the issue. Rose said the manager asked her for a detailed timeline showing when the procedures would take place and how much they would cost.
Can employers do this? Sure they can, but it's a classist, elitist policy.
I'm surprised they would say that in the job ad instead of just leaving it as they want people with a nice smile.
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